Philly wins four in a row

[RipperEagle]

The hell with it, I just had to make my own thread about the win because I'm such an ******* about it.

But I thought we couldn't stop the run?

But I thought Romo was so good to go to the pro bowl?

BUT I THOUGHT OWENS WAS GONNA PUNK US OUT?

Who knows, if they are nice the Lions may find some way to completly fall on their faces and let the Boys beat them.

Won't matter anyway since, you know, if we beat Atlanta we swept them meaning we will win the division.

Gotta give it up for Garcia, that guy has shown me and everyone else something I thought he lost in San Fran. The rest of the team has vastily improved around him too, and the defense is finally the well oiled Jim Johnson machine at the right time.

[Tengeta]

That game was AWESOME! I loved every minute of it. No doubt the Eagles will be my playoff favorite.

The Lakers lost to the Heat too, this is a kick *** Christmas all around!

[Tiz]

Nice win Ripper.

[RipperEagle]

That game was AWESOME! I loved every minute of it. No doubt the Eagles will be my playoff favorite.

Nice win Ripper.

Thanks my dudes.

Nothing more fun then watching my team win then when they beat Dallas.

[megadog]

:happy: Great game! I'm happy for you. Go Eagles (playoffs)! Go Garcia!

[HAVACARDSFAN]

Thanks my dudes.

Nothing more fun then watching my team win then when they beat Dallas.

:iagree: Especially the Cowboys :jumping: :exclamationmark: :exclamationmark: :exclamationmark: :Cards logo:

[phillycard]

Jeez Christ, Ripper, the eagles beat that ***!! I had to counsel my cousin and my best boy who are Cowboy fans, as their Christmas was ruined. Garcia has claimed this team, and I don't know if Donovan can get it back. Especially if he comes back week 7 or 8 next year and the birds are 6-2 or 7-1. I know you were hyped bro!

[Tiz]

Jeez Christ, Ripper, the eagles beat that ***!! I had to counsel my cousin and my best boy who are Cowboy fans, as their Christmas was ruined. Garcia has claimed this team, and I don't know if Donovan can get it back. Especially if he comes back week 7 or 8 next year and the birds are 6-2 or 7-1. I know you were hyped bro!
He's more than welcome in the purple and black as a back up to mcnair for a year.

[Drachir]

Jeez Christ, Ripper, the eagles beat that ***!! I had to counsel my cousin and my best boy who are Cowboy fans, as their Christmas was ruined. Garcia has claimed this team, and I don't know if Donovan can get it back. Especially if he comes back week 7 or 8 next year and the birds are 6-2 or 7-1. I know you were hyped bro!

He's more than welcome in the purple and black as a back up to mcnair for a year.Since Donovan trains here in the Valley I say we pick him up as a backup to Matt Leinart. Now that would be some crazy *****.

[Tengeta]

lol McNabb in a Cards uniform, hard to see that.

[RipperEagle]

Jeez Christ, Ripper, the eagles beat that ***!! I had to counsel my cousin and my best boy who are Cowboy fans, as their Christmas was ruined. Garcia has claimed this team, and I don't know if Donovan can get it back. Especially if he comes back week 7 or 8 next year and the birds are 6-2 or 7-1. I know you were hyped bro!

What I cannot put the money on PC is the fact that Jeff is 36. If he was say even 33 still, I would tell Donny you got one of two choices:
1. Ride the pine.
2. Find someone who will trade us an equitable piece for you.

But since Jeff is up there in age, I don't think he'll be staying much longer. Hell, I don't know if he even cares about the team in my opinion. He signed only a one year deal: he could be on team #5 in year #5.

:bibl: at the Boys fans you counseled. Poor guys!

NOT.

:rockon:

[RipperEagle]

He's more than welcome in the purple and black as a back up to mcnair for a year.

Two Irish MC's on the same team.

LOL what would be the odds?

[RipperEagle]

Since Donovan trains here in the Valley I say we pick him up as a backup to Matt Leinart. Now that would be some crazy *****.

lol McNabb in a Cards uniform, hard to see that.

For as much as McNabb is making and for as much as he is gimping lately, who knows?

This might be where the rumors of signing Jake Plummer could come into play actually. Plummer in Philly...hmmm if Garcia could do it...

[phillycard]

What I cannot put the money on PC is the fact that Jeff is 36. If he was say even 33 still, I would tell Donny you got one of two choices:
1. Ride the pine.
2. Find someone who will trade us an equitable piece for you.

But since Jeff is up there in age, I don't think he'll be staying much longer. Hell, I don't know if he even cares about the team in my opinion. He signed only a one year deal: he could be on team #5 in year #5.

:bibl: at the Boys fans you counseled. Poor guys!

NOT.

:rockon:

I definitely think he cares about the team. he hasn't been embraced like this in quite some time. I've seen so many #7 jerseys. I think the eagles will have to pay to bring him back.

[RipperEagle]

I definitely think he cares about the team. he hasn't been embraced like this in quite some time. I've seen so many #7 jerseys. I think the eagles will have to pay to bring him back.

yeah but my concern is the fact that he only signed a one year deal. Is Jeff, at age 36, going to be able to do this again next year if he is needed like Johnny on the spot? Can a team trust him to play a full 16-game schedule anywhere else?

If he does come back, is he the backup to McNabb? What if he does take us to the Superbowl and, by some odd chance in the soul pits of Miricle Hell, does win the big game?

Then what?

[kjbad]

This just proves my point that the Eagles are better off without McNabb...

[phillycard]

This just proves my point that the Eagles are better off without McNabb...

That's just ridiculous kjbad. Garcia's played well during this stretch, but until he wins it all, he's done nothing to warrant saying so long to possibly the best qb the eagles have ever had.

[kjbad]

Exactly what has McNabb won?

[Drachir]

Exactly what has McNabb won?Exactly as although McNabb is a great QB he chokes in the playoffs. If I remember correctly our Cardinals broke his leg or something and a backup named A.J. Feeley came in and didn't miss a beat. As a matter of face Feeley won 5 of the last 6 games that season. Jeff Garcia is basically doing the same thing this year. Just goes to show you that McNabb is overrated and that Andy Reid knows how to get his team to play as a team.

[Drachir]

Exactly as although McNabb is a great QB he chokes in the playoffs. If I remember correctly our Cardinals broke his leg or something and a backup named A.J. Feeley came in and didn't miss a beat. As a matter of face Feeley won 5 of the last 6 games that season. Jeff Garcia is basically doing the same thing this year. Just goes to show you that McNabb is overrated and that Andy Reid knows how to get his team to play as a team.LOL. Won't let me edit now that time has expired. Everyone should know that the bold should say "fact" and not face at least I would hope you would know. I guess it could be worse and I could have said "feces".

[RipperEagle]

Exactly as although McNabb is a great QB he chokes in the playoffs. If I remember correctly our Cardinals broke his leg or something and a backup named A.J. Feeley came in and didn't miss a beat. As a matter of face Feeley won 5 of the last 6 games that season. Jeff Garcia is basically doing the same thing this year. Just goes to show you that McNabb is overrated and that Andy Reid knows how to get his team to play as a team.

Freaking A...

Ditto...

I couldn't agree more...

Save a lot of money...shop #5 'fo sho!

[RipperEagle]

Exactly what has McNabb won?

Nothing, and while during the ERA of oh say 2000-2003 while it was exciting to see him make as many plays through the air as it was by his running skills, it got us figured out too easily come playoff time.

Something else my dudes on my other site said, they wanted to know where the drops went that kept appearing in the first half with Donny. That was a big reason why his completion % was lower. His balls can be like bricks, worse then those ever thrown by the soon to be TD and INT leader Brett Favre.

Garcia throws a very easy to loft ball for our receivers and doesn't force the issue.

The issue however will need to be forced should Garcia get us as far as I think we are going to go. If this team keeps playing like they are, I don't care if it is Chicago, New Orleans, Seattle, Dallas, or who so ever emerges from the cluster of 7-8 dolts, they can beat anyone the way they are playing now.

TTE: Total team effort!

[phillycard]

Nothing, and while during the ERA of oh say 2000-2003 while it was exciting to see him make as many plays through the air as it was by his running skills, it got us figured out too easily come playoff time.

Something else my dudes on my other site said, they wanted to know where the drops went that kept appearing in the first half with Donny. That was a big reason why his completion % was lower. His balls can be like bricks, worse then those ever thrown by the soon to be TD and INT leader Brett Favre.

Garcia throws a very easy to loft ball for our receivers and doesn't force the issue.

The issue however will need to be forced should Garcia get us as far as I think we are going to go. If this team keeps playing like they are, I don't care if it is Chicago, New Orleans, Seattle, Dallas, or who so ever emerges from the cluster of 7-8 dolts, they can beat anyone the way they are playing now.

TTE: Total team effort!

Ripper, this is where I part ways with you guys. McNabb is easily the best qb the eagles have EVER had. What exactly has he won?? Nothing of course, but do you think Feely or anybody else your boys have trotted out there would have gotten to 3 NFC championships and the Super Bowl?? My how quickly you guys forget Bobby Hoying and Doug Peterson. You never know what you miss until its' gone, and I LIKE Garcia.

[phillycard]

Exactly what has McNabb won?

That's a ludicrous argument kjbad. What had Elway ever won until he finally got his first chip? McNabb has done more with nothing than any qb I know of. He deserves to keep his job until someone takes it forcibly from him. I don't think Garcia's the one to do it. Payton Manning has done absolutely nothing then if we follow that type of argument, yet he's the best qb in the NFL right?? :Huh:

[Tiz]

That's a ludicrous argument kjbad. What had Elway ever won until he finally got his first chip? McNabb has done more with nothing than any qb I know of. He deserves to keep his job until someone takes it forcibly from him. I don't think Garcia's the one to do it. Payton Manning has done absolutely nothing then if we follow that type of argument, yet he's the best qb in the NFL right?? :Huh:


Glad someone said that. It is a ridiculous statement to make and it takes away from the career of people like Dan Marino and Barry Sanders as they never won Championships either and it gives false praise the Trent Dilfer's of the world. As Ripper pointed out under Garcia Reid is making them use a TTE (total team effort) with Mcnabb they rely heavily on him and don't get too much of the rest of the team involved. I'd welcome him to take over for Mcnair once Mcnair retires in 2 years in baltimore.

[Drachir]

Glad someone said that. It is a ridiculous statement to make and it takes away from the career of people like Dan Marino and Barry Sanders as they never won Championships either and it gives false praise the Trent Dilfer's of the world. As Ripper pointed out under Garcia Reid is making them use a TTE (total team effort) with Mcnabb they rely heavily on him and don't get too much of the rest of the team involved. I'd welcome him to take over for Mcnair once Mcnair retires in 2 years in baltimore.O I would welcome Donovan McNabb here in Arizona just simply to get us to the playoffs. Never mind that he chokes in the playoffs. Arizona is playoff starvation deprived.

[RipperEagle]

Ripper, this is where I part ways with you guys. McNabb is easily the best qb the eagles have EVER had. What exactly has he won?? Nothing of course, but do you think Feely or anybody else your boys have trotted out there would have gotten to 3 NFC championships and the Super Bowl?? My how quickly you guys forget Bobby Hoying and Doug Peterson. You never know what you miss until its' gone, and I LIKE Garcia.

You are right.

I mean, it's not like we didn't have the defense...oh wait.

I mean, it's not like we didn't have the running game...oh wait.

Doesn't it seem a little odd, as comparing the ESPN cover one faithful year in 1999 that depicted Ricky Williams in a dress and Mike Ditka in a tuxedo, that one will sometime see Donovan in a dress and Andy in a tux? (hopefully a well fitted one)

1999 started all of this. I'm not saying I hate Donovan, but I can't see how many quarterbacks get injured and then keep coming back over and over. Donovan was on pace to have his best year ever this season (keep in mind it would have surpassed a 2004 season in which we went bowling as a team). I hope he comes back at 100% (they are saying by the end of training camp he'll be ready to go) but I guess I will not judge anyone or anything until I see just how well Jeff Garcia does. Can he win us the big one? I would feel it almost along the lines of the Vince Papale "Invinceable" storyline if he did. You know what I am saying? This IS Donovan's team no question: it's been great having Jeff in control of the offense for as long as he has been and doing as well as he has been.

Well, at least you said HE got us to the Superbowl, I still hear from Boys fans it was TO who got us there. Amazing.

But I still don't understand why you come back at me the way you did over a team you, oh you know, DON'T CARE FOR! My reply to Drachir was :sarcasm: it's not meant to gun down Donny Mack. I would like both of them here next year should Jeff decide to stay, but it would HAVE to be as #2. After all, with McNabb's recent spurt of injuries, he's just as soon to be #1 on a GOOD team instead of fishing for a team to start on that SUCKS (see his 2004 campaign with Cleveland and 2005 campaign with Detroit).

Peace PC.

[kjbad]

That's a ludicrous argument kjbad. What had Elway ever won until he finally got his first chip? McNabb has done more with nothing than any qb I know of. He deserves to keep his job until someone takes it forcibly from him. I don't think Garcia's the one to do it. Payton Manning has done absolutely nothing then if we follow that type of argument, yet he's the best qb in the NFL right?? :Huh:

1) Who cares about Elway, he's not a PHI QB and wouldn't have lasted 5 seconds in that town - he couldn't even fathom being a Colt. Who cares about Sanders, he eventually got everything he wanted from football and apparently a championship was not on his list. And he wouldn't have lasted 5 seconds in PHI either.

2) McNabb has never had NOTHING, he has been given the most pass-wacky coach I can remember in Andy Reid and still has not won the big one. Not even with T.O. in his "prime". And I'm sorry, but PHI had a great RB corps and still has Westbrook.

3) Garcia is doing what he does well, and Andy Reid looks like the real genius for having a roster and individual game plans flexible enough to give his team a realistic chance of winning every week.

4) Peyton Manning has done nothing, and no he is not the best QB in the NFL. As good as the Colts have been, "Fully Hydrated" hasn't even gotten the AFC championship yet.

The best thing the Eagles can do is see if Omar can become the next big thing in Philly, because McNabb's days are numbered if he can't come back. I'll say it right now - McNabb isn't Drew Brees or Chad Pennington, and the team has shown that they can win games without him. The Eagles do NOT need him to build a franchise around.

[Tiz]

1) Who cares about Elway, he's not a PHI QB and wouldn't have lasted 5 seconds in that town - he couldn't even fathom being a Colt. Who cares about Sanders, he eventually got everything he wanted from football and apparently a championship was not on his list. And he wouldn't have lasted 5 seconds in PHI either.

2) McNabb has never had NOTHING, he has been given the most pass-wacky coach I can remember in Andy Reid and still has not won the big one. Not even with T.O. in his "prime". And I'm sorry, but PHI had a great RB corps and still has Westbrook.

3) Garcia is doing what he does well, and Andy Reid looks like the real genius for having a roster and individual game plans flexible enough to give his team a realistic chance of winning every week.

4) Peyton Manning has done nothing, and no he is not the best QB in the NFL. As good as the Colts have been, "Fully Hydrated" hasn't even gotten the AFC championship yet.

The best thing the Eagles can do is see if Omar can become the next big thing in Philly, because McNabb's days are numbered if he can't come back. I'll say it right now - McNabb isn't Drew Brees or Chad Pennington, and the team has shown that they can win games without him. The Eagles do NOT need him to build a franchise around.


Apparenlty you have never followed football prior to Garcia if you believe half of the crap you posted. Denver was not in great shape either but yet Elway went there. Sanders wanted a championship but playing for Detroit is the same as like many of you say playing for AZ is. The owner doesn't want to win. If you recall Detroit let their best Olineman leave and go to AZ and with that Barry felt they weren't trying to win a championship so he retired. 10 years of taken hits and having an ownership act like they don't want to win and obviously they won't trade you, what else should he do.

Did you think Andy was a genius when AJ Feeley went 4-1 starting for Philly? What exactly has Garcia won, he has no SB rings from his time with the Niners and he didn't accomplish anything with Cleveland or Detroit and yet you act like he is the winner that Mcnabb and Peyton are not. Why because they have gotten into the playoffs multiple times only to have failed and Garcia's playoff experience was limited to one time and a failure too.

And you are right, Mcnabb is neither Drew Brees or Chad Pennington because both of those players have you on their jocks but yet neither of them have won a SB ring either. Chad and the Jets have beating Drew and the Chargers only to lose in the 2nd round the following week. Odd that you knock repeat playoff contenders as saying they've never won but yet praise others or even worse those that fail to get to the playoffs consistently. I'll chalk that up to the ASU and AZ connection as the last thing you had to cheer for was Shawn Springs and Ohio State dominating Jake Plummer in a bowl game years ago.

[RipperEagle]

1) Who cares about Elway, he's not a PHI QB and wouldn't have lasted 5 seconds in that town - he couldn't even fathom being a Colt. Who cares about Sanders, he eventually got everything he wanted from football and apparently a championship was not on his list. And he wouldn't have lasted 5 seconds in PHI either.

Haha that's the #1 thing about playing in Philly and I feel bad for them players...us fans sure give them hell. Most passionate? Maybe. I would say that we want to win...**** it's looking good right now too!

2) McNabb has never had NOTHING, he has been given the most pass-wacky coach I can remember in Andy Reid and still has not won the big one. Not even with T.O. in his "prime". And I'm sorry, but PHI had a great RB corps and still has Westbrook.

Right on. In 2000 it hit the ceiling when he attempted 569 passes, the problem was that Reid went that way too much and the running game suffered because of it. It's not that we didn't have people either: Duce Staley was still in his prime, and Westbrook was on his way in with Correll between them. In fact, 2003 was their best year, which STILL corrasponded with McNabb throwing 478 times.

3) Garcia is doing what he does well, and Andy Reid looks like the real genius for having a roster and individual game plans flexible enough to give his team a realistic chance of winning every week.

That's actually been Marty Morenwhig who has done that, and since they worked together for all them years in San Fran, it's helped them out double. But this is where we find out if we can run the ball because we do have one of the best (and I think heaviest) offensive lines in the league. And it's worked: Westbrook I am looking to go over 1,300 yards rushing and 2,000 MPY and Correll is still running well.

4) Peyton Manning has done nothing, and no he is not the best QB in the NFL. As good as the Colts have been, "Fully Hydrated" hasn't even gotten the AFC championship yet.

Who do you think is the best QB in the NFL then?

That reminds me, where is Cards & Colts?

The best thing the Eagles can do is see if Omar can become the next big thing in Philly, because McNabb's days are numbered if he can't come back. I'll say it right now - McNabb isn't Drew Brees or Chad Pennington, and the team has shown that they can win games without him. The Eagles do NOT need him to build a franchise around.

I'm all for the idea of Omar Jacobs being brought up. He was hyped up in college, and I don't think Timmy Chang is going to be the answer. Actually, I'm kind of glad Pittsburgh let him go like they did. In addition, I just don't think Donny can be springing back from all of these injuries so easily all the time anymore. He himself just turned 30 in November and these kind of injuries can start taking years off of your career.

[phillycard]

You are right.

I mean, it's not like we didn't have the defense...oh wait.

I mean, it's not like we didn't have the running game...oh wait.

Doesn't it seem a little odd, as comparing the ESPN cover one faithful year in 1999 that depicted Ricky Williams in a dress and Mike Ditka in a tuxedo, that one will sometime see Donovan in a dress and Andy in a tux? (hopefully a well fitted one)

1999 started all of this. I'm not saying I hate Donovan, but I can't see how many quarterbacks get injured and then keep coming back over and over. Donovan was on pace to have his best year ever this season (keep in mind it would have surpassed a 2004 season in which we went bowling as a team). I hope he comes back at 100% (they are saying by the end of training camp he'll be ready to go) but I guess I will not judge anyone or anything until I see just how well Jeff Garcia does. Can he win us the big one? I would feel it almost along the lines of the Vince Papale "Invinceable" storyline if he did. You know what I am saying? This IS Donovan's team no question: it's been great having Jeff in control of the offense for as long as he has been and doing as well as he has been.

Well, at least you said HE got us to the Superbowl, I still hear from Boys fans it was TO who got us there. Amazing.

But I still don't understand why you come back at me the way you did over a team you, oh you know, DON'T CARE FOR! My reply to Drachir was :sarcasm: it's not meant to gun down Donny Mack. I would like both of them here next year should Jeff decide to stay, but it would HAVE to be as #2. After all, with McNabb's recent spurt of injuries, he's just as soon to be #1 on a GOOD team instead of fishing for a team to start on that SUCKS (see his 2004 campaign with Cleveland and 2005 campaign with Detroit).

Peace PC.

I see your point Ripper, but the fact that I don't like the eagles doesn't mean that I don't follow them. I follow them almost as much as I do because

1. I'm a Philadelphian
2. I LOVE football
3. My father is Joe eaglefan so whenever I talk to my father we eventually talk football.

It just irks me to see so called "hardcore" eagle fans wanting the team to hand the reins to Garcia permanantly and are so quick to buy number 7 jerseys based on a few games. Donovan certainly has his flaws both on the field and off (I lost a lot of respect for him due to the racial comments made over the Owens flap.) but in this day of annual qurterback roulette games and in light of the stellar careers of Tim Couch, Akili Smith and Ryan Leaf, it's amazing that people can't appreciate a **** good thing in front of their faces. Before Matty showed up, Cardinal fans would have KILLED to have a steady force at that position who as long as you surround him with the players he needs can take you all the way.

[phillycard]

1) Who cares about Elway, he's not a PHI QB and wouldn't have lasted 5 seconds in that town - he couldn't even fathom being a Colt. Who cares about Sanders, he eventually got everything he wanted from football and apparently a championship was not on his list. And he wouldn't have lasted 5 seconds in PHI either.

2) McNabb has never had NOTHING, he has been given the most pass-wacky coach I can remember in Andy Reid and still has not won the big one. Not even with T.O. in his "prime". And I'm sorry, but PHI had a great RB corps and still has Westbrook.

3) Garcia is doing what he does well, and Andy Reid looks like the real genius for having a roster and individual game plans flexible enough to give his team a realistic chance of winning every week.

4) Peyton Manning has done nothing, and no he is not the best QB in the NFL. As good as the Colts have been, "Fully Hydrated" hasn't even gotten the AFC championship yet.

The best thing the Eagles can do is see if Omar can become the next big thing in Philly, because McNabb's days are numbered if he can't come back. I'll say it right now - McNabb isn't Drew Brees or Chad Pennington, and the team has shown that they can win games without him. The Eagles do NOT need him to build a franchise around.


Oh God kjbad, please say I am not reading your statements correctly with you saying Pennington and Brees are better than McNabb. I pray that I am mis-reading that.

[kjbad]

Oh God kjbad, please say I am not reading your statements correctly with you saying Pennington and Brees are better than McNabb. I pray that I am mis-reading that.

Read between the lines - McNabb is coming back from an injury, just like Brees and Pennington. He's older and he needs to prove he can run the team. That's all...I'll reserve my value judgments until he gets a chance to silence his critics. :)

[kjbad]

Apparenlty you have never followed football prior to Garcia if you believe half of the crap you posted. Denver was not in great shape either but yet Elway went there. Sanders wanted a championship but playing for Detroit is the same as like many of you say playing for AZ is. The owner doesn't want to win. If you recall Detroit let their best Olineman leave and go to AZ and with that Barry felt they weren't trying to win a championship so he retired. 10 years of taken hits and having an ownership act like they don't want to win and obviously they won't trade you, what else should he do.

Elway went there because anywhere was better than playing for the Colts. You can make excuses for Sanders all you want, but he made his choice. No one forced him to retire, not even the Lions.

Did you think Andy was a genius when AJ Feeley went 4-1 starting for Philly? What exactly has Garcia won, he has no SB rings from his time with the Niners and he didn't accomplish anything with Cleveland or Detroit and yet you act like he is the winner that Mcnabb and Peyton are not. Why because they have gotten into the playoffs multiple times only to have failed and Garcia's playoff experience was limited to one time and a failure too.

You missed the point, it's not about journeyman Feeley or journeyman Garcia, it's about "franchise QB" McNabb. No one wants to build a franchise around those two, but why is McNabb the unchallenged starting QB in PHI? You're going to love my next statement, but T.O. had a point when he dogged the guy after the SB loss. and to this day the apologists run to McNabb's defense.

And you are right, Mcnabb is neither Drew Brees or Chad Pennington because both of those players have you on their jocks but yet neither of them have won a SB ring either. Chad and the Jets have beating Drew and the Chargers only to lose in the 2nd round the following week. Odd that you knock repeat playoff contenders as saying they've never won but yet praise others or even worse those that fail to get to the playoffs consistently. I'll chalk that up to the ASU and AZ connection as the last thing you had to cheer for was Shawn Springs and Ohio State dominating Jake Plummer in a bowl game years ago.

McNabb is what he is, a QB coming off of an injury who has a lot to prove. Talking about ASU or anyone else I support won't change that. We'll see what excuse we get next season when someone injures him AGAIN, and the backup QB has to save the season AGAIN.

[RipperEagle]

McNabb is what he is, a QB coming off of an injury who has a lot to prove. Talking about ASU or anyone else I support won't change that. We'll see what excuse we get next season when someone injures him AGAIN, and the backup QB has to save the season AGAIN.

He isn't just coming off an injury now.

We're talking 2002, 2005, and 2006.

When he is healthy and playing he is as good as your pro bowl quarterbacks. But half of the battle these days is keeping him upright and going for a full season. And now that he has turned 30 I find it hard to believe that there is ever going to be another season like 2004 for him, or for that matter even 2003 or 2000.

I hope I am wrong, but with the recent rash of injuries he has suffered from, why do I have the sense that the time is going to harsh to him?

And Garcia, at 36, isn't going to be Superman forever. AJ? Yeah right I wouldn't trust him with Heather Mitts...oh wait.

In my honest opinion, they should turn their attention to a QB in the draft this year, even if he is a late round pick, unless they are serious about letting Omar Jacobs earn his way up. That would be swell.

[Elminster]

He isn't just coming off an injury now.

We're talking 2002, 2005, and 2006.

When he is healthy and playing he is as good as your pro bowl quarterbacks. But half of the battle these days is keeping him upright and going for a full season. And now that he has turned 30 I find it hard to believe that there is ever going to be another season like 2004 for him, or for that matter even 2003 or 2000.

I hope I am wrong, but with the recent rash of injuries he has suffered from, why do I have the sense that the time is going to harsh to him?

And Garcia, at 36, isn't going to be Superman forever. AJ? Yeah right I wouldn't trust him with Heather Mitts...oh wait.

In my honest opinion, they should turn their attention to a QB in the draft this year, even if he is a late round pick, unless they are serious about letting Omar Jacobs earn his way up. That would be swell.
Congrats on your team. I know something about issues at QB, but not quite the injury-prone kind. I'm not well-versed on draft prospects, and won't be until after the combine, but it seems wise for the Eagles to invest in their future NOW. IMO, a decade ago, the Bills waited too long to line up a replacement for JK, and we payed the price. Whether Todd Collins simply didn't have it or simply wasn't given enough time by Butler and Wade after Marv left(they cut TC...in favor of Rob Johnson), one can never say, but the long-term consequences were drastic and have only faded this year, a full decade after JK retired.

Granted, during the past decade, the Bills have had a slew of other problems, but stability and good play from the QB counts for a lot in this league, and the Eagles can no longer rely on McNabb being healthy, or even playing much longer, if he continues to suffer serious injuries. The time to address it is NOW, not a few years from now when you absolutely know McNabb is on his last legs...

[RipperEagle]

Five in a row!

When our second and third teamers are beating the opponents, something is going right!

[RipperEagle]

Congrats on your team. I know something about issues at QB, but not quite the injury-prone kind. I'm not well-versed on draft prospects, and won't be until after the combine, but it seems wise for the Eagles to invest in their future NOW. IMO, a decade ago, the Bills waited too long to line up a replacement for JK, and we payed the price. Whether Todd Collins simply didn't have it or simply wasn't given enough time by Butler and Wade after Marv left(they cut TC...in favor of Rob Johnson), one can never say, but the long-term consequences were drastic and have only faded this year, a full decade after JK retired.

Yeah Eliminster, sorry about your Bills not making it. But hey, that teams looks pretty **** good to be challenging for the AFC East next year...but do something with the Jets will ya?

Todd Collins, Rob Johnson, Alex Van Pelt, they were all winners. :sarcasm:

What got me about Buffalo is when they knew Jim Kelly was going to retire they settled on a quarterback circus. And like you said, it has taken nearly a decade to come to a final and hopefully permanent replacement for JK in JP Losman.

I bet you really hate the NFC East eh? I mean, four straight SuperBowl appearences, and four straight losses to NFC East teams: two to Dallas, and one to Washington and New York.

Take care fellow fan on a :Cards logo: board! :rockon:

[Elminster]

Yeah Eliminster, sorry about your Bills not making it. But hey, that teams looks pretty **** good to be challenging for the AFC East next year...but do something with the Jets will ya?

Todd Collins, Rob Johnson, Alex Van Pelt, they were all winners. :sarcasm:

What got me about Buffalo is when they knew Jim Kelly was going to retire they settled on a quarterback circus. And like you said, it has taken nearly a decade to come to a final and hopefully permanent replacement for JK in JP Losman.

I bet you really hate the NFC East eh? I mean, four straight SuperBowl appearences, and four straight losses to NFC East teams: two to Dallas, and one to Washington and New York.

Take care fellow fan on a :Cards logo: board! :rockon:
Don't remind me...the Eagles are my favorite NFC East team by default, I'll have you know! But I only really hate the Cowboys because the Giants don't tend to do much and the Deadskins are downright hilarious.....

[emart]

i just feel bad for the 'skins. when dan snyder spends all that money on a team and they suck that badly, you gotta feel kinda bad.

[RipperEagle]

i just feel bad for the 'skins. when dan snyder spends all that money on a team and they suck that badly, you gotta feel kinda bad.

Money + owner who wants to win now + big name players - chemistry = disaster.

See, don't need school to teach me that!

[RipperEagle]

Don't remind me...the Eagles are my favorite NFC East team by default, I'll have you know! But I only really hate the Cowboys because the Giants don't tend to do much and the Deadskins are downright hilarious.....

Thanks Eliminster.

Like I said before and I will say it again, as much as I hate the Giants and Skins, I have gotten along with and repsect very much the fans of both teams.

Dallas? Their team AND their stinking fans are in another world.

As one wise man once told me: I wouldn't even make a baby with a Cowboys fan...PLEASE!

[RipperEagle]

Update: six in a row

Here's hoping we can prove everyone wrong, shock the world, or see another Brain Dawkins Dawplex in the very least.

Perferably on Drew Brees. Hopefully it scrambles his brains and he starts playing like Drew "no wonder they wanted to get me the hell out of San Diego" Brees.