Warner will Return in 2007

[Big_RED]

Despite contemplating retirement, Kurt Warner said Wednesday that he will return in 2007.

Say what you will about his skills, but Warner isn't a bad insurance policy to have behind Matt Leinart. He added that he could change his mind after the season, although he does have two years left on his contract.

www.rotoworld.com

[HH24]

Despite contemplating retirement, Kurt Warner said Wednesday that he will return in 2007.

Say what you will about his skills, but Warner isn't a bad insurance policy to have behind Matt Leinart. He added that he could change his mind after the season, although he does have two years left on his contract.

www.rotoworld.com

please no :garfield:

Id rather have Josh backing Matt up, or the likes of Jake

[Belac44]

I could think of worse back ups to have than Warner. If Warner retires the Cardinals will have to add two QB's to the roster and we have other areas that need our attention and this would allow us to focus on those more.

[DUSK884]

This is great news IMO.

[GACardFan]

Does anyone actually think a better backup than Warner could be brought in? Maybe Plummer or Garcia, but I don't think either one is going to want to back anyone up, especially Garcia and the money he probably will demand after the season. Warner still has skills and if Leinart goes down I can't think of anyone else who knows the system and can take the reins and lead this team to some wins. Please don't retire Warner, we need 2 quality quarterbacks on this team. Plummer would be nice also but like I said I doubt he will be looking to be a back up no matter what he is saying now. :Cards logo:

[The Pirate Bob]

Very good news. I was going to write him a letter asking him to stick around. I am sure he has had something to do with Lienart's progress and will continue to. I would rather have a super bowl winner teaching him than someone else.

[chivasregal]

I would like to see Kurt as the QB coach, bring back the Snake, dump Navarre and draft a QB in the last round of the draft.

[ARZCardinals]

This is REAL good news. A solid backup qb for a decent price.

no looking for some new guy to learn the offense.

I'm real pleased with this news.

[JayGee]

yes! the QB position is settled for a change around here.

[pg13]

I hope he does not return here. There is no reason to play for this oganization. They have lied to him, disrespected him and his talent. I would hope that he doesn't retire, but doesn't return to the Cardinals. The fact remains, he was on a bad team getting no help and was still producing at a rate that would have him in the top 14 of qb's in the league. To question whether he would have continued to produce at that rate for the whole year, you'd only have to look to Matt's numbers to all but confrim it. So why should he stay and play for a team who's management, and coaches don't look to give the team the best chance to win. They would rather opt out for an uncertain future, ala NY and Eli, then go with someone who gives you the best chance to win now. Warner rite.... OUT!

[AZCARDSfaninNJ]

Does anyone actually think a better backup than Warner could be brought in? Maybe Plummer or Garcia, but I don't think either one is going to want to back anyone up, especially Garcia and the money he probably will demand after the season. Warner still has skills and if Leinart goes down I can't think of anyone else who knows the system and can take the reins and lead this team to some wins. Please don't retire Warner, we need 2 quality quarterbacks on this team. Plummer would be nice also but like I said I doubt he will be looking to be a back up no matter what he is saying now. :Cards logo:

If Jake Plummer comes back here I think I would have a heart attack, please no!

[The Pirate Bob]

I can't imagine that Jake would want to come here to sit on the bench. There are still a couple teams out there that could upgrade their QB position with him starting.

[JayGee]

I can't imagine that Jake would want to come here to sit on the bench. There are still a couple teams out there that could upgrade their QB position with him starting.

jake will probably end up in chicago. they wanted him before he went to denver. they ended up choosing kordell stewart - yuck!

[RedViper]

Warner is a kick *** backup, not just because he's a good option if you have to use him. He's basically also another coach back there for Matt. Philly has proven this year how valuable it is to have a backup that can actully play if he has to and Warner definitely fits that role. And the fact that he doesn't just stand there looking stupid when Matt is healthy makes him twice as valuable. I can definitely see him as a coach himself when his career does end. We're lucky to have him.

[T.J.]

Warner coming back?? Awesome!! Great teammate and still has some fire in his belly.

[BoomerFan480]

i say keep Kurt.
He's an great guy w/ real experience. he still has some left in the tank, dont put all the blame on his fumbles & INTs the beginning of the year.. plus, hes a BACKUP for '07.. its not like we are starting him and sitting matt out. he can only benefit this team, not hinder it.

[LongTimeFan]

Warner was a Superbowl and Pro-bowl QB for a reason. He hasn't lost those mental skills, even though I think that he has lost some of the physical skills. He can help Matt and he can step in, if necessary for a few games. It settles the QB position for the Cards with two quality players; a young and upcoming star coupled with an aging star.

I still think Kurt would make an excellent QB coach and am hoping that he gets the opportunity to be a player coach and help Matt develop into a Superbowl and Pro-bowl QB for the Cards.

[D.Payne #29]

I hope he does not return here. There is no reason to play for this oganization. They have lied to him, disrespected him and his talent. I would hope that he doesn't retire, but doesn't return to the Cardinals. The fact remains, he was on a bad team getting no help and was still producing at a rate that would have him in the top 14 of qb's in the league. To question whether he would have continued to produce at that rate for the whole year, you'd only have to look to Matt's numbers to all but confrim it. So why should he stay and play for a team who's management, and coaches don't look to give the team the best chance to win. They would rather opt out for an uncertain future, ala NY and Eli, then go with someone who gives you the best chance to win now. Warner rite.... OUT!

hahahahaha..:poke: :ok:

[Oaken1]

from azcentral.com





Warner says he'll be back

Andrew Bagnato
Associated Press
Dec. 27, 2006 03:15 PM


TEMPE, Ariz. - Two months after raising the possibility of retirement, Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner on Wednesday said he would return in 2007.

Although Warner left himself room to change his mind, it was his most definitive statement yet about his plans.

In October, the 35-year-old Warner acknowledged that he had begun to consider retirement after losing the starting job to rookie Matt Leinart. But Warner, who has two years remaining on his contract, said he's looking forward to a 10th NFL season. advertisement




"I've thought about it a lot, and I'm going to come back and play," Warner said. "I want to play. I feel like I've got a lot of football left in me.

"Not that that can't change when the offseason comes around and me and my family sit down and all of those types of things," Warner said. "But I signed a contract to be here with the Cardinals."

With Leinart sidelined by a shoulder injury, Warner will start Sunday's regular-season finale at San Diego.

Though he was stung by his demotion, Warner simply wasn't ready to end one of the more remarkable careers in NFL history. Warner, who was not drafted coming out of Northern Iowa, went from the Arena Football League and NFL Europe to lead St. Louis to two Super Bowls. A two-time league MVP, Warner entered this season with the second-highest quarterback rating in NFL history, behind only Steve Young.

"I feel like I've got a lot of football left in me and I'm supposed to continue to play," Warner said. "And so that's what I go into offseason thinking, is that I'll be back here in a Cardinal uniform next year."

Warner's future seemed secure when he signed a three-year contract with the Cardinals in February worth between $15 million and $22 million. But the club's plans changed when Leinart unexpectedly fell to them in the 10th slot of the draft.

Suddenly, Warner was merely holding the job until Leinart was ready. And while the Cardinals hoped that Leinart would not have to take a snap this year, their plans quickly changed.

Warner opened the year in grand fashion, earning NFC offensive player of the week honors after completing 23 of 37 passes for 301 yards and three touchdowns in a 34-27 victory over San Francisco.

But Warner's season soon soured. In a 16-14 home loss to St. Louis two weeks later, Warner was booed off the field after throwing three interceptions and fumbling a snap at the St. Louis 18 with 1:41 remaining.

Green benched Warner after the Cardinals fell to 1-3, and Warner did not throw another pass until last week, when he relieved the injured Leinart and helped lead the Cardinals to a 26-20 victory at San Francisco.

Since his glory days with the Rams, Warner has lost starting jobs to Marc Bulger in St. Louis, Eli Manning with the New York Giants and now Leinart.

Although he wasn't happy to be benched in Arizona, Warner did not become a distraction to the team. On Wednesday, he took a philosophical view of what had been a personally disappointing season.

"You know, it's been OK," said Warner, who has completed 63.2 percent of his passes for 1,021 yards with five touchdowns and five interceptions. "As much as you want to play, the hardest thing for me is actually Wednesday through Saturday, when you come out here and you don't really get a chance to compete, and that's what I love so much is competing. Sundays, you can deal with it because you get into the game, and I do what I can to help Matt, helping the coaches. That's not near as bad as the rest of the week."

The team's improvement down the stretch - Arizona has won four of six after a 1-8 start - made the year more bearable.

"All things considered, I've really enjoyed the year, obviously dealing with the disappointments and stuff mixed in there," Warner said. "But outside of that, it's been good."

[SULLY]

is PG13 brenda????? this organization gave kurt a chance and he blew it. i dont see how it is that difficult to see. if you cant hold on to the ball you cant be in the game. hmm seems simple to me.

[Belac44]

I hope he does not return here. There is no reason to play for this oganization. They have lied to him, disrespected him and his talent. I would hope that he doesn't retire, but doesn't return to the Cardinals. The fact remains, he was on a bad team getting no help and was still producing at a rate that would have him in the top 14 of qb's in the league. To question whether he would have continued to produce at that rate for the whole year, you'd only have to look to Matt's numbers to all but confrim it. So why should he stay and play for a team who's management, and coaches don't look to give the team the best chance to win. They would rather opt out for an uncertain future, ala NY and Eli, then go with someone who gives you the best chance to win now. Warner rite.... OUT!

Wow, that post hilarious and yet also creepy...

You are obviously not a Cards fan and the only positive I can think of with Kurts departure would be yours along with it.

:Cards logo:

[Darth Llama]

It kills me that anyone even replies to PG13/Gunny. He's obviously not a Cardinal fan, so just stop responding to him. He's like that pesky kid in high school that followed you around everywhere thinking if he's seen with you, he would be considered "cool." The only way to get rid of him is ignore him, just don't reply to his inane post.

But actually ON the topic, I for one think it's great news. Warner is a good guy, and if he can overcome his little case of "fumble-itis" he would be a very good QB. Do I trust him as our starter? No, not really.. but he's a great back up and now we don't have to worry about our QB's next year.

[Northern Soul]

I agree with the guys who think its a good move.
More importantly I think 2 guys on the Roster will be delighted. Messrs Fitz and Boldin. Q's body language has at times looked less than positive when playing with Matt. In fact he looked on more than one occasion frustrated. Its early days, but those two have a real chemistry with Kurt, Matt is getting better and the chemistry will hopefully come. But IMO KW staying improves the chances of keeping these two in the long term.

[booman141]

I hope he does not return here. There is no reason to play for this oganization. They have lied to him, disrespected him and his talent. I would hope that he doesn't retire, but doesn't return to the Cardinals. The fact remains, he was on a bad team getting no help and was still producing at a rate that would have him in the top 14 of qb's in the league. To question whether he would have continued to produce at that rate for the whole year, you'd only have to look to Matt's numbers to all but confrim it. So why should he stay and play for a team who's management, and coaches don't look to give the team the best chance to win. They would rather opt out for an uncertain future, ala NY and Eli, then go with someone who gives you the best chance to win now. Warner rite.... OUT!

This type of rubbish is so tired. I honestly feel nauseas while reading it. The situation with Leinart replacing Warner is simply THE AMERICAN WAY.

If you are an old guy being paid to do a job, and there is a younger more exciting guy waiting in the wings to TAKE YOUR JOB. You (as the OLD GUY) had better be perfect or outstanding in your performance, otherwise, the young guy is going to take your job. That is just the way it works in life.

I'm so sick of hearing the SAME TIRED ARGUMENT,

Kurt USED to be a great QB,

Kurt is a NICE GUY!

both those things are true but neither is a valid argument for why he should have kept his starting job. After the St. Louis game, there wasn't a fan in my section that wasn't booing Kurt emphatically. Not just for the fumble, but for the 3 picks that were ENTIRELY his fault. He single handedly gave that game away.

I like Kurt a lot and I sincerely hope he has a good game on Sunday and stays next year to back up Matt, but geez, can you ************* PLEASE GET OVER IT!

[Bigredfan]

I hope he does not return here. There is no reason to play for this oganization. They have lied to him, disrespected him and his talent. I would hope that he doesn't retire, but doesn't return to the Cardinals. The fact remains, he was on a bad team getting no help and was still producing at a rate that would have him in the top 14 of qb's in the league. To question whether he would have continued to produce at that rate for the whole year, you'd only have to look to Matt's numbers to all but confrim it. So why should he stay and play for a team who's management, and coaches don't look to give the team the best chance to win. They would rather opt out for an uncertain future, ala NY and Eli, then go with someone who gives you the best chance to win now. Warner rite.... OUT!

Well if you want to lie to and disrespect me, for 15 mil, Let me get a chair and get comfortable. Apparently, he does'nt feel terribly disrespected himself because he wants to stay with the Cards. which makes your post nonsense.

[Belac44]

I agree with the guys who think its a good move.
More importantly I think 2 guys on the Roster will be delighted. Messrs Fitz and Boldin. Q's body language has at times looked less than positive when playing with Matt. In fact he looked on more than one occasion frustrated. Its early days, but those two have a real chemistry with Kurt, Matt is getting better and the chemistry will hopefully come. But IMO KW staying improves the chances of keeping these two in the long term.

I really dont see how a back up QB is going to have any impact on whether Fitz or Boldin will want to stay here.

They are locked up for awhile and the Cards wont allow them to leave regardless, but KW has nothing to do with that.

[booman141]

Anquan with Warner.... 22rec 295 yds 74ypg .25tdpg

Anquan with Leinart.... 55rec 796yds 73ypg .27tdpg

Fitz with Warner.... 24rec 321yds 80ypg .25tdpg

Fitz with Leinart.... 40rec 577yds 83ypg .43tdpg

Is it just me or are these stats pretty much identical or even slightly slanted in MATT's Favor.

Again, I'm not saying I hate Kurt or that he isn't a good QB but honestly you Warner lovers have this delusion in your head that all was great with Kurt and Matt has done such a terrible job...

To argue that Matt and Q would rather not be here if Kurt leaves is a new low of grasping to straws, even for you guys.

[Darth Llama]

Booman.. stop bogging down this argument with facts and proof! :biggrin:


You know the ************* don't understand them. They don't care if we lose 150-7 as long as it's Warner under center. They'll spend all day praising him for that one TD.

[Northern Soul]

Anquan with Warner.... 22rec 295 yds 74ypg .25tdpg

Anquan with Leinart.... 55rec 796yds 73ypg .27tdpg

Fitz with Warner.... 24rec 321yds 80ypg .25tdpg

Fitz with Leinart.... 40rec 577yds 83ypg .43tdpg

Is it just me or are these stats pretty much identical or even slightly slanted in MATT's Favor.

Again, I'm not saying I hate Kurt or that he isn't a good QB but honestly you Warner lovers have this delusion in your head that all was great with Kurt and Matt has done such a terrible job...

To argue that Matt and Q would rather not be here if Kurt leaves is a new low of grasping to straws, even for you guys.

Hi Boo.
Interesting stuff. My point though was about Boldin's body language, and him not looking happy. Now of course that could be because of the number of fruitless touches given to Edge, so less throws are coming his way, but it could also be due to not having that chemistry with Matt that he undoubtably has with Kurt. In 2005 KW, Q and Fitz lit this league up. I'm sure they all thought it would be more of the same this year, and with Edge, maybe even better. It hasnt worked out like that and to me Q looks very frustrated.

How do the stats compare per game with last year? Being a statistician in real life I dont let it bog me down with sport, but I'd be interested to compare the 2 years.

And on a final note. I know its a cultural difference, but you yanks are nutters when it comes to supporting teams. I am a Cards fan. By supporting a player in a thread, it doesnt mean I Love him or Hate the other guy/guys in his position. It just means I am a Cards fan. Not a Warner Phile. Not a Matt hater. There are WAAAAYYYYYY too many guys on here who dont support the Cards, but like one player. I'm not one of them. If JJ leaves the Cards (I hope he stays for at least 10 more years) I wont be one of the rats deserting the ship. I was a fan before he came, and I will be a fan when he leaves. Not everyone on here can say the same about their favourite players. Oh yeah, and Fitz better not be going anywhere soon. My brother bought me a Fitz replica shirt for Christmas.:biggrin:

Mike.

[booman141]

I am a native AZ boy and a Cardinal fan since I was 8 years old. I don't like being told what kind of fan I am. All you Warner Sympathizers (there, is that better than ************?) want to do is jump down my throat because I support Matt as the QB of this team. Don't presume to tell me what kind of fan I am, ok chap?

When I was 14+ I would take what little money I would make from mowing lawns/washing cars and go buy myself tickets from scalpers on Sunday.

If you lived in the AZ you could have watched a Television show called "In My Own Words" which featured an entire episode about Anquan Boldin.

In that show, Q talked about his days in Florida State and how he switched positions several times in order to get playing time because he simply couldn't tolerate sitting on the bench. He also talked about losing and being frustrated. He said he loved the Cardinals but he hated losing. "I won all thru high-school and college so to come here and lose is a new experience for me. It's hard man..."

Those are the words from the man himself. I think the angst and frustration you are seeing on the field have NOTHING to do with Matt or Kurt and more to do with the fact that Q wants to be "The Best EVER" and wants to win ball games. People underestimate how hard it is to be a perennial loser.

I mean, it's frustrating for us as fans, but it's a million times harder for the players. They all aren't just greedy, money hungry people. Some of them, like Q and many others on this team actually want to win more than anything else.

So before you come on here saying that you are perfectly reading Q's body language from 5000+ miles away, you should realize that those of us here in the HOME TOWN might be more informed than you.

I'm not saying this because I know Q, I'm saying it because THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. HE HATES LOSING!!! Not that he loves Kurt, not that he Hates Matt.

[Northern Soul]

If I offended you with my reply Boo I apologise unreservedly. It was not meant at all.
I was merely trying to point out my opinion doesnt come from having a favourite between Matt and Kurt. As I said in my post I was interested looking at your stats. And I am also interested in seeing what Q said. I had not seen that before. What is the phrase? Two countries divided by the same language. I promise I wasnt ragging on you, or criticising you in any way.

I wanted Matt to sit for a year or two, so he could learn, and not have to take the knocks he has this year. Because I want him to be the Cards QBoF. I look at Romo and Rivers for example and see the long term benefits of a young QB being in a system for a couple of years. Its not because I am some Warner loving, Matt hating, spam merchant.

[booman141]

If I offended you with my reply Boo I apologise unreservedly. It was not meant at all.
I was merely trying to point out my opinion doesnt come from having a favourite between Matt and Kurt. As I said in my post I was interested looking at your stats. And I am also interested in seeing what Q said. I had not seen that before. What is the phrase? Two countries divided by the same language. I promise I wasnt ragging on you, or criticising you in any way.

I wanted Matt to sit for a year or two, so he could learn, and not have to take the knocks he has this year. Because I want him to be the Cards QBoF. I look at Romo and Rivers for example and see the long term benefits of a young QB being in a system for a couple of years. Its not because I am some Warner loving, Matt hating, spam merchant.

You didn't offend be brother. I absolutely love the english, I mean that. I'm a huge Monty Python, Harry Potter, Father Tate or is it father dan? anyways, I'm a fan etc... I am probably lumping you into a group with Gunny and PG13 who constantly accuse those of us who support Leinart as "Garbage fans who dont love the Cardinals"

I'm not a USC fan. As I said, I'm a NATIVE AZ boy, I could care less about the **** trojans. When we got Leinart I was like, 'oh sweet, that's the dude from USC that's supposed to be real good right? He'll make a great backup to Kurt till he's ready."

That's exactly what I thought of Matt until the St. Louis game and the Atlanta game where Kurt decided to turn the ball over 18 times. Then I was like, screw this, this season isn't over yet, let's give the young guy a shot.

I dig your posts, but you are in bad company with your support of Warner so you will have to forgive me if I take some generalized shots at you due to the ignorance of your brethren.

Tom

[Northern Soul]

You didn't offend be brother. I absolutely love the english, I mean that. I'm a huge Monty Python, Harry Potter, Father Tate or is it father dan? anyways, I'm a fan etc... I am probably lumping you into a group with Gunny and PG13 who constantly accuse those of us who support Leinart as "Garbage fans who dont love the Cardinals"

I'm not a USC fan. As I said, I'm a NATIVE AZ boy, I could care less about the **** trojans. When we got Leinart I was like, 'oh sweet, that's the dude from USC that's supposed to be real good right? He'll make a great backup to Kurt till he's ready."

That's exactly what I thought of Matt until the St. Louis game and the Atlanta game where Kurt decided to turn the ball over 18 times. Then I was like, screw this, this season isn't over yet, let's give the young guy a shot.

I dig your posts, but you are in bad company with your support of Warner so you will have to forgive me if I take some generalized shots at you due to the ignorance of your brethren.

Tom

:biggrin: :Cards logo:

[Fan43]

Why not drop the subject?? What's the point in arguing about it now??

Warner wasn't the same, after the blow to that head, during the Rams game. Concussion or not.. it affected his play, and judging from that alone, I'm more concerned with him coming out of Sundays game healthy.

Leinart's the one getting paid, he's younger, and doing just fine, under the circumstances.

I do agree with 13, on the way Warner's been treated by alot of Arizona fans. And that's not to mention Green throwing him under the bus..., when it was Greens playcalling, and weak OL, causing the problems.

[WhyNotTheCards?]

Why not drop the subject?? What's the point in arguing about it now??

Warner wasn't the same, after the blow to that head, during the Rams game. Concussion or not.. it affected his play, and judging from that alone, I'm more concerned with him coming out of Sundays game healthy.

Leinart's the one getting paid, he's younger, and doing just fine, under the circumstances.

I do agree with 13, on the way Warner's been treated by alot of Arizona fans. And that's not to mention Green throwing him under the bus..., when it was Greens playcalling, and weak OL, causing the problems.

playcalling and a weak OL doesn't mean you have to fumble the ball everytime you get hit. Just thought I'd throw that in there. :bibl:

[Fan43]

It's a problem Warner had, and Green knew it, when he brought him in behind that weak OL. Anything else you'd like to add?? Maybe something, we don't already know?
I think it went beyond fumbling, against the rams.. don't you??? Meaning.. Green could see, Warner wasn't right, right after the blow to the head. Warner should've been pulled, at the first sign of it. In a situation like that... I blame the coach, over the player.

[lkratavil49]

You didn't offend be brother. I absolutely love the english, I mean that. I'm a huge Monty Python, Harry Potter, Father Tate or is it father dan? anyways, I'm a fan etc... I am probably lumping you into a group with Gunny and PG13 who constantly accuse those of us who support Leinart as "Garbage fans who dont love the Cardinals"

I'm not a USC fan. As I said, I'm a NATIVE AZ boy, I could care less about the **** trojans. When we got Leinart I was like, 'oh sweet, that's the dude from USC that's supposed to be real good right? He'll make a great backup to Kurt till he's ready."

That's exactly what I thought of Matt until the St. Louis game and the Atlanta game where Kurt decided to turn the ball over 18 times. Then I was like, screw this, this season isn't over yet, let's give the young guy a shot.

I dig your posts, but you are in bad company with your support of Warner so you will have to forgive me if I take some generalized shots at you due to the ignorance of your brethren.

Tom

Boo, I love many of the points you have made on this thread.....although we come from different perspectives (huge USC fan/Native AZ) we are both Arizona Cardinals fans - you are one of quite a few that have dispelled many of the arguments that some of these posters have made on this MB, that if you support Matt you are a USC/Trojan lover......WRONG!

Also, I am not a rams fan/lover, yet I'm a big Kurt Warner fan. I support whoever is under center, minus the sick adoration and vicious personal attacks on the other QB.......both these guys are TEAM PLAYERS!

[booman141]

Boo, I love many of the points you have made on this thread.....although we come from different perspectives (huge USC fan/Native AZ) we are both Arizona Cardinals fans - you are one of quite a few that have dispelled many of the arguments that some of these posters have made on this MB, that if you support Matt you are a USC/Trojan lover......WRONG!

Also, I am not a rams fan/lover, yet I'm a big Kurt Warner fan. I support whoever is under center, minus the sick adoration and vicious personal attacks on the other QB.......both these guys are TEAM PLAYERS!

Thanks ma!

I get all warm and tingly when lkratavil gives me compliments!

They are both team players, excellent point. Kurt is even talking about staying next year so obviously he understands why things happen the way they did this year. It wasn't a situation like in NY where he had a winning record and was suddenly pulled, everyone knew this was coming.

I like Kurt a lot. When he came into the SF game last week I found myself truly and honestly rooting for him to light it up. I thought, 'ok Kurt, it's redemption time buddy!'

In the end we are all Cardinals fans and it's a shame that we let petty differences of opinion cause so much contention on this board when the common goal is the same!

[Belac44]

Hi Boo.
How do the stats compare per game with last year? Being a statistician in real life I dont let it bog me down with sport, but I'd be interested to compare the 2 years.

Mike.

The stats from last year would be meaningless as we had a running game for half of this season.

[booman141]

Anquan with Warner.... 22rec 295 yds 74ypg .25tdpg

Anquan with Leinart.... 55rec 796yds 73ypg .27tdpg

Fitz with Warner.... 24rec 321yds 80ypg .25tdpg

Fitz with Leinart.... 40rec 577yds 83ypg .43tdpg

-05 Stats

Fitzgerald 16gms 1409yds 88.1ypg 10tds .63tdpg

Boldin 14gms 1402 100ypg 7tds .5tdpg

Keep in mind that Josh McCown played in 6 games last season and started 4 of those accounting for 103completions 1836yds and 11tds.

I'm not going to break down Q and Fitz catches by QB. That's going too far even for me. I am trying to maintain some semblance of a life!

[Fan43]

Point is..., " it takes a whole team, (and some decent playcalling/coaching), to win ". The Cards haven't had either, regardless of who's qbing. Numbers are all meaningless, considering the outcome of the games.

[AussieCardinal]

Nice move by Warner

[UWMilwaukee]

Give Navarre one last shot! What's the difference. If he wins this game bonus, if you lose, the Cards get a better draft pick.

I am starting to see why the Cardinals are the Cardinals, you terds are arguing over Warner....or Plummer? These guys are old and washed up. You need fresh blood, and I start with Navarre. Again, one last shot. If it works out great. If not move on.

But guys, what is with the love fest for Warner and Plummer? Embarassing!

[Bigredfan]

Give Navarre one last shot! What's the difference. If he wins this game bonus, if you lose, the Cards get a better draft pick.

I am starting to see why the Cardinals are the Cardinals, you terds are arguing over Warner....or Plummer? These guys are old and washed up. You need fresh blood, and I start with Navarre. Again, one last shot. If it works out great. If not move on.

But guys, what is with the love fest for Warner and Plummer? Embarassing!

Give Navarre one last shot? Somebody might actually give that thought some consideration but for the fact that you posted it 1 day before the game. Yea like thats gonna happen. Gee don't you think your plan to start a third string QB might require a rep or two with the starting line up inpractice? Besides do you really think Navarre starting one game is going to tell you anything. I don't think Warner will be the starter again unless there is a injury ala the SF game. Oh did you watch that game? I guessing not. He did a good job as a backup. By the way if you're going to come on here and call people names, **** is spelled with a U.

One other thing. Welcome to the message board. Do use a favor,keep your post count low.

[Belac44]

Give Navarre one last shot! What's the difference. If he wins this game bonus, if you lose, the Cards get a better draft pick.

I am starting to see why the Cardinals are the Cardinals, you terds are arguing over Warner....or Plummer? These guys are old and washed up. You need fresh blood, and I start with Navarre. Again, one last shot. If it works out great. If not move on.

But guys, what is with the love fest for Warner and Plummer? Embarassing!


You are calling people on this board terds and yet you want to start Navarre.

:ok:

[UWMilwaukee]

Yep go ahead start Warner. He'll bump his toe and get a concussion. All that I'm saying is if you are looking for a future number two, Warner isn't the answer. I'm not saying Navarre is, but you need to give him a shot. At the end of the day the Cardinals are still out of the playoffs but may have helped themselves for the following year, and they will still have Warner at 2.

[Belac44]

Yep go ahead start Warner. He'll bump his toe and get a concussion. All that I'm saying is if you are looking for a future number two, Warner isn't the answer. I'm not saying Navarre is, but you need to give him a shot. At the end of the day the Cardinals are still out of the playoffs but may have helped themselves for the following year, and they will still have Warner at 2.

They have given Navarre enough chances, the guy has no future in the NFL. He needs to be replaced as the 3rd string QB, not promoted to 2nd.

[Felony]

If ANY team at all offers Warner a fair chance at being the starter, there is no way he stays in AZ.

[gocardsgo]

If ANY team at all offers Warner a fair chance at being the starter, there is no way he stays in AZ.


1) He's under contract
2) What team will GIVE him a job like the last two he was GIVEN.

[TrueHeroTillman]

physically, there's probably better backups for us.

mentally, there isn't. our backup, barring injury, is lucky to take 5% of the snaps. our backup needs:

to stay sharp
teach the starter (if needed)
stay positive about the role.

warner does all these things, and he doesn't whine about his situation.

keep kurt as backup.

[thomasfletcher]

Wow someone who actualy honors a contract. I thought he said he was coming back before the season was over. By the way, I think we would have won more games with him under center. It is plain stupid to throw a rookie under the bus like Green did. The only thing against Warner is he isnt the fastest guy in the world. Nothing like running for your life behind a sorry O-line to figure that one out.

[sharkman]

I don't mind having Warner as an experienced backup....but I think we need to get a young QB to groom as the future backup...

...Kurt's $5mil cap hit every year is a luxury that I'd rather spend on the OL or defense.

[pg13]

I don't mind having Warner as an experienced backup....but I think we need to get a young QB to groom as the future backup...

...Kurt's $5mil cap hit every year is a luxury that I'd rather spend on the OL or defense.
This is WHY they are going to trade him or cut him loose. If you're not going to let him play, you're not going to waste 5mil a year on the bench. It's silly to think that.

[Keenum]

I don't mind having Warner as an experienced backup....but I think we need to get a young QB to groom as the future backup...

...Kurt's $5mil cap hit every year is a luxury that I'd rather spend on the OL or defense.

I wouldn't doubt the Cards ask Warner to lower his salary or something soon. He's done it before in St.Louis, more than once I think. He's a class act, and I think he wouldn't mind lowering his cap hit so the Cards could bring in another player.

[AZ Proud]

Don't underestimate the value of a quality back-up QB. It is rare that a QB makes it through the entire season without injury and we have one of the top QB tandems in the league. The rest of the league (good teams) know this and will pay $$ to have a veteran back-up they can rely on. Kurt is very valuble to the team on and off the field, he's worth every penny. Hopefully he's part of this organization as a QB coach even after he retires.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I don't mind having Warner as an experienced backup....but I think we need to get a young QB to groom as the future backup...

...Kurt's $5mil cap hit every year is a luxury that I'd rather spend on the OL or defense.

I agree, right up to that point when Leinart goes down.

[Calilumber]

This is all a bunch of crap!!!!!! I am 38 yrs old and have been a Cards fan for 52 yrs!!! I am glad to see Warner stay and Love Matt as the starter:sign:

[emart]

i bet matt wouldn't have done so well starting if it wasn't for warner helping him with the x's and o's. even though i was mighty upset with warner starting after the first couple games last season, i do think he is one of the premier guys to have as a backup. he'll be able to pick up the offence quick, he can still throw a ball or two (and, quite honestly, with fitz and Q out there that's always a good thing) and he's also happens to have that big, clunky piece of jewelry on his finger that's a superbowl ring. so, i am incredibly happy matty is starting, i am very glad we have a backup of warner's caliber, and i still can't believe they cancelled the o.c. ...

[NightHawk11and81]

i bet matt wouldn't have done so well starting if it wasn't for warner helping him with the x's and o's. even though i was mighty upset with warner starting after the first couple games last season, i do think he is one of the premier guys to have as a backup. he'll be able to pick up the offence quick, he can still throw a ball or two (and, quite honestly, with fitz and Q out there that's always a good thing) and he's also happens to have that big, clunky piece of jewelry on his finger that's a superbowl ring. so, i am incredibly happy matty is starting, i am very glad we have a backup of warner's caliber, and i still can't believe they cancelled the o.c. ...

The O.C. was lame. The rest of your post wasn't.

[CaliCardFan]

Well if our O-line stays solid into the years to come.....if Matt ever goes down, I dont think we will not miss a beat to much with Warner coming in. Our O-line played well against SD in the last game and so did Warner. I dont doubt that Warner is a good QB. But with a bad O-line he is awful.....and should be. But the people talking about bringing Jake back or would like to have him back *** ARE YOU THINKING?????? He has one of the best O-lines in the NFL and he still sucks. He has always sucked and will continue to suck for the rest of his life. I cant beleive I actually read that some would like him back.:frown:

[lkratavil49]

Well if our O-line stays solid into the years to come.....if Matt ever goes down, I dont think we will not miss a beat to much with Warner coming in. Our O-line played well against SD in the last game and so did Warner. I dont doubt that Warner is a good QB. But with a bad O-line he is awful.....and should be. But the people talking about bringing Jake back or would like to have him back *** ARE YOU THINKING?????? He has one of the best O-lines in the NFL and he still sucks. He has always sucked and will continue to suck for the rest of his life. I cant beleive I actually read that some would like him back.:frown:

Well....I'm not saying one word against Jake Plummer, but we are fortunate that we have two very good, cerebral QBs here....the young student and the experienced teacher.....same type of QB. That is why we need to make sure they are behind the best o-line possible to give them the time to shred the opposing teams defense and pass/handoff the ball to the playmakers. Kurt is the reason I am not too concerned who the QB coach is....Matt has the best veteran QB mentor (for him IMO) in Kurt Warner.

[TucsonCardsFan]

Well if our O-line stays solid into the years to come.....if Matt ever goes down, I dont think we will not miss a beat to much with Warner coming in. Our O-line played well against SD in the last game and so did Warner. I dont doubt that Warner is a good QB. But with a bad O-line he is awful.....and should be. But the people talking about bringing Jake back or would like to have him back *** ARE YOU THINKING?????? He has one of the best O-lines in the NFL and he still sucks. He has always sucked and will continue to suck for the rest of his life. I cant beleive I actually read that some would like him back.:frown:

Maybe it's that Grizzly Adams beard?..