Saddam is Dead!!

[REO Bandwagon]

It is being announced on the Fox news channel, that Saddam Hussein, was executed @ 8:08 Arizona time.

[NJCardFan]

Ding-dong Hussein is dead! This is bigger than most realize. Now I'm going to wait and see all of the leftist apologists for what they say.

[NJCardFan]

Right now this is reality:

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[Cardsfan2000]

Ding-dong Hussein is dead! This is bigger than most realize. Now I'm going to wait and see all of the leftist apologists for what they say.

I don't like death... even of the sickest, most twisted individual... Death is an end to life, how is this a good thing?
IMHO you degrade yourself by needlessly killing someone, even a mass-murderer... It is a positive step that the Iraqi courts were able to successfully try and convict him.

[BoboCracker]

Death is an end to life, how is this a good thing?

In Saddams case and many like him, it means he will never kill anyone ever again. Sounds great to me. Good riddance!

[SeeingRed]

I don't like death... even of the sickest, most twisted individual... Death is an end to life, how is this a good thing?
IMHO you degrade yourself by needlessly killing someone, even a mass-murderer... It is a positive step that the Iraqi courts were able to successfully try and convict him.

Are you ***** kidding me? Put yourself in the shoes of the father who's entire family was murdered or poisoned then buried in a mass grave with thousands of other people. You mean to tell me, that even in defense of your family, you would not want to see the man who killed your whole family killed as punishment? If one of Saddam's soldiers came in to your house and kidnapped your wife so he could **** her and kill her, wouldn't you want him dead? I don't understand the rationalization for your line of thinking. When it comes to crime, it should be a life for a life. The ONLY punishment for murder should be death, period.

[Cardsfan2000]

Are you ***** kidding me? Put yourself in the shoes of the father who's entire family was murdered or poisoned then buried in a mass grave with thousands of other people. You mean to tell me, that even in defense of your family, you would not want to see the man who killed your whole family killed as punishment? If one of Saddam's soldiers came in to your house and kidnapped your wife so he could **** her and kill her, wouldn't you want him dead? I don't understand the rationalization for your line of thinking. When it comes to crime, it should be a life for a life. The ONLY punishment for murder should be death, period.

The death penalty is a hotly debated topic, there are legitimate points to each side...
I have already stated my views on this matter.

[AZFAN777]

NJ,

I support the death penalty. Unfortunately, it remains a necessary evil in this world full of evil people. Why we keep killers in jail for decades until they rot away is beyond me. Let the punishment fit the crime.

However, I will NEVER rejoice in someone's death, even a man as evil as Saddam. It's nice that he will never hurt anyone again but do you think those people who lost someone under his reign really feel any better now? I think they could care less, this dosn't bring back their loved ones or bring peace to their nation, it's simply more death. A cousin of mine was killed by a man who was later found guilty of many other horrible crimes. He was put to death years later and I can tell you his death, while being a relief knowing he would never hurt anyone again, brought no peace and no satisfaction to me or my family. It simply reminded us of our loved one and made us miss her even more.

I feel very sorry for all the people of the middle east. They are surrounded by death, conflict, confusion and destruction. It's hard to imagine how any of their children can possibly grow up to be any different than their ancestors given the environment they are growing up in. Whether you want to admit it or not, we (USA) are partly responsible for that environment. Nobody's hands are clean in this war.

I feel even more sorry for people like you who can actually rejoice in the death of another human being. Who knows how many died under Saddam's reign but a great deal had to die to bring him to the gallows.

It's a sad and confused world that we are living in. Maybe someday we can stop meeting death with more death and start finding actual solutions.

I fear that day is a long ways away.

RIP To all those whom have lost their lives to the senseless violence at the hands of evil leaders and corrupt governments.

[Cardsfan2000]

NJ,

I support the death penalty. Unfortunately, it remains a necessary evil in this world full of evil people. Why we keep killers in jail for decades until they rot away is beyond me. Let the punishment fit the crime.

However, I will NEVER rejoice in someone's death, even a man as evil as Saddam. It's nice that he will never hurt anyone again but do you think those people who lost someone under his reign really feel any better now? I think they could care less, this dosn't bring back their loved ones or bring peace to their nation, it's simply more death. A cousin of mine was killed by a man who was later found guilty of many other horrible crimes. He was put to death years later and I can tell you his death, while being a relief knowing he would never hurt anyone again, brought no peace and no satisfaction to me or my family. It simply reminded us of our loved one and made us miss her even more.

I feel very sorry for all the people of the middle east. They are surrounded by death, conflict, confusion and destruction. It's hard to imagine how any of their children can possibly grow up to be any different than their ancestors given the environment they are growing up in. Whether you want to admit it or not, we (USA) are partly responsible for that environment. Nobody's hands are clean in this war.

I feel even more sorry for people like you who can actually rejoice in the death of another human being. Who knows how many died under Saddam's reign but a great deal had to die to bring him to the gallows.

It's a sad and confused world that we are living in. Maybe someday we can stop meeting death with more death and start finding actual solutions.

I fear that day is a long ways away.

RIP To all those whom have lost their lives to the senseless violence at the hands of evil leaders and corrupt governments.

That was really deep man.

[Saturn5]

This is bigger than most realize.

insignificant. he's mostly been forgotten.

[Mibrilane #56]

insignificant. he's mostly been forgotten.
This is one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen posted here.

Mostly forgotten? The man ruled Iraq as a tyrant for 30+ years. The Iraqis have not "mostly forgotten" this in the past few years. You may have mostly forgotten about him, but they have not.

Saddam is dead. There is now absolutely no chance now that someday he might return to power in Iraq. To the Iraqis, that is very significant. Minimize the importance of this all you want, but what the Iraqis think matters a great deal more to the situation over there than what one Bush-hating liberal American thinks.

[Tiz]

Are you ***** kidding me? Put yourself in the shoes of the father who's entire family was murdered or poisoned then buried in a mass grave with thousands of other people. You mean to tell me, that even in defense of your family, you would not want to see the man who killed your whole family killed as punishment? If one of Saddam's soldiers came in to your house and kidnapped your wife so he could **** her and kill her, wouldn't you want him dead? I don't understand the rationalization for your line of thinking. When it comes to crime, it should be a life for a life. The ONLY punishment for murder should be death, period.


Still don't support the death penalty. I've been in situations where i've lost friends and famiily and the one thing you learn is that even if they kill the person that killed your family your family is still gone. I don't expect you to share my belief but I do find it funny that whenever someone states that they don't support the loss of life in any fashion the retorts are always the same "put your self in the shoes of someone who's family has been killed/*****/whatever".

That doesn't magically make me change the fact that I understand and believe in aspects of the New Testament. I've never believed in a human being having the right to take another humans life no matter the pretenses.

[NJCardFan]

This is one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen posted here.

Mostly forgotten? The man ruled Iraq as a tyrant for 30+ years. The Iraqis have not "mostly forgotten" this in the past few years. You may have mostly forgotten about him, but they have not.

Saddam is dead. There is now absolutely no chance now that someday he might return to power in Iraq. To the Iraqis, that is very significant. Minimize the importance of this all you want, but what the Iraqis think matters a great deal more to the situation over there than what one Bush-hating liberal American thinks.


Mib, you as well as I knew that the left on this board and in this country were going to see Saddam's celestial dirt nap as "meh". But as I said before, this is bigger than most here want to believe. As for those who were affected by Saddam's atrocities, as was said on the news, those who were interviewed looked at this as justice served. And to hear first hand accounts how this idiot acted in court makes me even more happy that he's burning in Hell.

[BodybuildingCardsFan]

I don't like death... even of the sickest, most twisted individual... Death is an end to life, how is this a good thing?
IMHO you degrade yourself by needlessly killing someone, even a mass-murderer... It is a positive step that the Iraqi courts were able to successfully try and convict him.

You degrade yourself by needlessly killing him? It's only needless to you, not these people.

This always comes from the mind-set that isn't concerned about justice for the victims, but rather concerned with their own conscious on a matter that simply doesn't have anything to do with them when it comes to justice. It's easy to say death is wrong when you haven't been tortured by such a man as these people have, for a very long time. Many Americans have gone soft because we don't face the hardships people in other parts of the world do. Where issues like justice aren't just altruistic, but very real and necessary to maintain any sense of civil behavior. What we (the US) do, by putting murderers in prison for years is not justice for the victim, because the person that is dead isn't continuing to live, and I can guarantee that the dead person would rather switch places with the murderer just so that he may live. That's not equal payment.

In order for there to be justice for the victims, especially concerning Saddam, he had to pay for the lives he took with his own. That's justice in its finality, and the families of the victims can finally put that chapter of their life to rest. There is much peace to be found in such things.

For the victim's families there is a joy in this. It's called peace of mind, and being able to close a chapter in their lives that was very painful. There is joy in the victims getting to see real justice done. Every breath Saddam continued to take was an insult to the families of those killed, and the people killed themselves.

There is nothing wrong in celebrating the death of someone that took part in the death of others. The loss of a life that was heavily interested in such persuits is an overall gain for mankind. The loss of a life that didn't deserve it, now that's the death that shouldn't be celebrated, but rather mourned by everyone.

More of a side-note, but had Hitler not committed suicide, I'd have said the same **** thing. However, such mind-sets as you put forth here say we should have put someone like him in jail just because death is bad no matter who the individual.

[KidStallyn]

To be honest....we have gotten too soft on criminals as it is....A lot of people become criminals so that they can go to jail, have a roof over thier head and get three meals a day. Beats living in the cold, on the street, digging out of trash cans for food. I think we need to have swift justice to fit the crime. Death for those who kill. Cut off the arm of a thief, etc. Eye for an eye. And do it right away, get it over with quickly. And then let them go after thier wounds are healed. There is no consequences to going to jail today. The human rights activists have turned jail into a day camp. Jailed prisoners have it better then some of the hardest working people out there who are working three jobs, raising a family, etc. It should not be like that. It should be a PUNISHMENT.

[Tiz]

To be honest....we have gotten too soft on criminals as it is....A lot of people become criminals so that they can go to jail, have a roof over thier head and get three meals a day. .


What are you basing this off of? Psychology has shown that most that committ crimes such as **** and murder do so for the power, not to get 3 hots and a cot. Other crimes like robbery and what not are done for the money involved not because they want to go to jail.

i agree that we let people off to easy espeically when someone wants to claim insanity but that doesn't mean that we are better than the person we are given the death penalty to just because we claim we are doing it in the name of justice.

[arizona_cards_11]

And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each man, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of his fellow man. "Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man. (Gen 9:5-6)

People do not fear the death penalty, because it is likely that they will not receive it.


Aside from quoting the Bible, which obviously does not apply to some of you, why don't we take a common sense outlook.

If someone purposely kills another human, wouldn't it be fair if their life was also taken for the inhuman, cruel, and attrocious actions they had committed?

[NJCardFan]

To be honest....we have gotten too soft on criminals as it is....A lot of people become criminals so that they can go to jail, have a roof over thier head and get three meals a day. Beats living in the cold, on the street, digging out of trash cans for food. I think we need to have swift justice to fit the crime. Death for those who kill. Cut off the arm of a thief, etc. Eye for an eye. And do it right away, get it over with quickly. And then let them go after thier wounds are healed. There is no consequences to going to jail today. The human rights activists have turned jail into a day camp. Jailed prisoners have it better then some of the hardest working people out there who are working three jobs, raising a family, etc. It should not be like that. It should be a PUNISHMENT.


Kid, all I can tell you is that you don't know the half of it.

[Mibrilane #56]

What are you basing this off of? Psychology has shown that most that committ crimes such as **** and murder do so for the power, not to get 3 hots and a cot. Other crimes like robbery and what not are done for the money involved not because they want to go to jail.
3 hots and a cot. I like that. :thumbsup:

[Reckon]

I only hope the trap door hit him in the ***** on the way out.

[KidStallyn]

I will say this....The fact that the murdering tyrant that is responsible for hundreds of thousands of murders is dead is a good thing for this world. He cannot have anyone break him out of prision and end up back in power. The fact that there is camera phone video of the actual hanging on the Internet is totally classless. We do not need to see it first hand.

[Saturn5]

Saddam is dead. There is now absolutely no chance now that someday he might return to power in Iraq. To the Iraqis, that is very significant.

Does it change the state of Iraq? No.

Does it change the insurgency? No.

Does it change the U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan? No.

Does it change the Iraqi government's inability to govern? No. although the way it was handled did put a magnifying glass on that issue, in a not so friendly light.

Most importantly, does it change the day to day lives of the ordinary Iraqi citizen in any significant way? No.

Is there now peace in Iraq because he is dead? No.

Have the Iraqi's suddenly found the ability to solve their problems because of his death? No.

Has the U.S. government miraculously found the elixer to the problems we face in Iraq? No.

Mostly insignificant. He is now a footnote in the current state of affiars in Iraq, as he should be.

[82CardsGrad]

Does it change the state of Iraq? No.

Does it change the insurgency? No.

Does it change the U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan? No.

Does it change the Iraqi government's inability to govern? No. although the way it was handled did put a magnifying glass on that issue, in a not so friendly light.

Most importantly, does it change the day to day lives of the ordinary Iraqi citizen in any significant way? No.

Is there now peace in Iraq because he is dead? No.

Have the Iraqi's suddenly found the ability to solve their problems because of his death? No.

Has the U.S. government miraculously found the elixer to the problems we face in Iraq? No.

Mostly insignificant. He is now a footnote in the current state of affiars in Iraq, as he should be.


Did anyone suggest that Saddam's death would do any of which you point out here? No.

Now, go back to orbit sick man... :bibl:

[Portland Card]

At least his cat had fun . . :biggrin:


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[SeeingRed]

At least his cat had fun . . :biggrin:


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My dad just forwarded that to me the other day. lmao.

[arizona_cards_11]

I just watched " Iraq, My Country" ......a documentary on the country of Iraq, after Saddam's fall.

You should see the joy of the citizens after the American assault.....they were finally free from the constant terror of Hussein's rule.

[SeeingRed]

I just watched " Iraq, My Country" ......a documentary on the country of Iraq, after Saddam's fall.

You should see the joy of the citizens after the American assault.....they were finally free from the constant terror of Hussein's rule.

That doesn't mean anything to the Democrats. Sadly, with as much trash as they talk, the Democratic party has no plan for Iraq. They let the Administration do all the work and complain about it while they propose student loan rate drops and minimum wage increases.

[Cardsfan2000]

insignificant. he's mostly been forgotten.

Completely right Saturn... No significant increase or decrease of violence.

[SeeingRed]

Completely right Saturn... No significant increase or decrease of violence.

No significant increase...the most important part of your post. The left was crying wolf after he was hanged; saying there would be a drastic increase in violence.

[Cardsfan2000]

No significant increase...the most important part of your post. The left was crying wolf after he was hanged; saying there would be a drastic increase in violence.

No... but the right was saying that opposite, look at the quote from saturn I cited.

[SeeingRed]

No... but the right was saying that opposite, look at the quote from saturn I cited.

Optimism > crying wolf.