View Full Version : Look for Cards to strike fast because.........
luman
01-05-2007, 11:01 AM
If the Cards want to get someone on the cheap and they do, what I've heard is the new coach will be the lowest paid coach in the league, than they will have to strike fast. If they don't, they will get in a bidding war with the other teams. SO the best bet for them seems to be Chow or Sherman. Both can be had cheap and both can be hired today! I think I read somewhere that Chow does not interview well? My guess Sherman is the new head coach. I'm not sure if other teams are even bringing him in for interviews. I want Chow, but This is the Cards after all.
Question: Can the Cards offer the job to one of the coaches in the playoffs today, or do they have to wait until the team loses? I mean if they could get a commitment but not announce it until they lose that would be great.
LongTimeFan
01-05-2007, 11:10 AM
What idiotic criteria for hiring a new HC, based on pay. When you hire somebody in industry, pay is a consideration, but qualifications are much more important because if you hire a unqualified candidate, it doesn't matter how little you pay him, he costs you money. I believe the Cards organization is smarter than this and understands the business aspect. You don't want to overpay, but salary is not your primary concern. If there is a fit between an individual and the organization, salary has a way of being resolved so that both parties are happy.
jetdoc
01-05-2007, 11:15 AM
I don't think that they in ANY manner underpaid DG. $2.5M per year doesn't sound like peanuts even in the coaching ranks. :frown:
DUSK884
01-05-2007, 11:21 AM
Would be nice to see all NFL coaches get paid per win. Win = cha ching. Lose= thanks for playing.
Big Red
01-05-2007, 11:24 AM
There is absolutely no non-conjecture evidence that the Cardinals are planning on underpaying the next coach or his assistants. Any claims to the contrary are made of straw, as are the silly assertions that coaches won't come here because of Graves. Rivera is a friend and ally of Graves; Sherman doesn't seem to mind; Chow couldn't care less. IMO, the Cards are doing a thorough and reasonable search and will end up making a good hire. I don't have a favorite among the three listed. Each has strengths and weaknesses. Making an assessment and a decision must be a fun management perogative. Being second-guessed goes with the territory. Only one thing will stem the avalanche of negativity: winning.
dillon1
01-05-2007, 11:30 AM
Dolphins to talk to Chargers' Cameron
Associated Press
Jan. 4, 2007 04:35 PM
MIAMI - The Miami Dolphins received permission to interview San Diego offensive coordinator Cam Cameron for their head coaching vacancy, Chargers general manager A.J. Smith said Thursday.
Cameron is the first confirmed candidate since former coach Nick Saban left Wednesday for Alabama. Cameron also is expected to interview for jobs with the Arizona Cardinals and Atlanta Falcons.
"I'm just excited for somebody to have that opportunity," Smith said. "When you're in this business you want to go to the top. I know he has aspirations to be a head coach. Personally, I'm very excited for him." advertisement
Before joining Chargers' staff as offensive coordinator in 2002, Cameron was head coach at his alma mater, Indiana, from 1997 to 2001.
Other possible Dolphins candidates from the NFL include Chicago Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, former Green Bay head coach Mike Sherman, Indianapolis assistant head coach Jim Caldwell, Tennessee Titans offensive coordinator Norm Chow and Pittsburgh Steelers assistants Russ Grimm and Ken Whisenhunt.
Looks like we have some competition.:Cards logo:
Steve85308
01-05-2007, 11:38 AM
2.5 million , was the lowest salary?
sharkman
01-05-2007, 12:55 PM
2.5 million , was the lowest salary?
Actually....Dennis Green was the highest paid coach in the League....by points.
http://www.forbes.com/home/business/2006/12/18/nfl-coaches-most-valuable-biz-cx_tvr_1218nfl.html
bmcguire1
01-05-2007, 01:00 PM
I believe that Lovie Smith of the Bears is the lowest paid HC in the NFL.
Saturn5
01-05-2007, 01:19 PM
What idiotic criteria for hiring a new HC, based on pay. When you hire somebody in industry, pay is a consideration, but qualifications are much more important because if you hire a unqualified candidate, it doesn't matter how little you pay him, he costs you money. I believe the Cards organization is smarter than this and understands the business aspect.
Remember, we are talking about the Cardinals. You cannot compare any other organizations to them. They do things their way. Always have, and always will as long as they're owned by the bidwills. Doesn't neccessarily mean they're cheap. They just have their own rulebook, and it ain't always logical.
JayGee
01-05-2007, 02:04 PM
we've had a lot of practice hiring new head coaches, so we're due to get it right this time:
1 Gene Stallings (1986-1989)
2 Hank Kuhlmann (interim) (1989)
3 Joe Bugel (1990-1993)
4 Buddy Ryan (1994-1995)
5 Vince Tobin (1996-1999)
6 Dave McGinnis (2000-2003)
7 Dennis Green (2004-2006)
8 ___________(2007-and-beyond)
luman
01-05-2007, 02:07 PM
The lowest paid HC comment came from the radio yesterday and it was a local sportwriter or TV host?
JayGee
01-05-2007, 02:21 PM
Most Valuable NFL Coaches
Tom Van Riper, 12.18.06, 3:25 PM ET
The legendary Vince Lombardi said that when it comes to football, the desire to win is more important than winning itself.
Yet despite the long shadow Lombardi still casts over the game 36 years after his death--he coached the Green Bay Packers to five titles in the 1960s--current National Football League coaches would be hard pressed to agree. In the cutthroat world of professional football, winning is everything. Trying hard is noble, but it doesn't get you a raise. Owners, hungry for sold-out stadiums and the extra revenue that comes with playoff games, have shown they're willing to shell out big dollars to coaches who have proven they can win.
At some point, though, the question for the owners becomes, "How much is too much?" For a struggling franchise, it's tempting to lure a big-name veteran coach to turn things around, despite the fact that such coaches command a lot of money. What's more, the tactic doesn't always work.
In Pictures: The Ten Most Valuable NFL Coaches
Two years ago, the Washington Redskins brought back Joe Gibbs, the man who coached them to three Super Bowl titles between 1982 and 1991. But despite a $5 million-a-year contract, Gibbs has barely nudged the team's results past the level of the five seasons before his return--the Skins have averaged seven wins and nine losses per year since 2004.
Likewise, the Dallas Cowboys' four-year, $17 million contract with Bill Parcells, a veteran of several past coaching successes, including a pair of Super Bowl titles, hasn't yielded many dividends yet. Parcell's first three years in Dallas have produced only two more wins per season than what the Cowboys averaged during the previous five years, and just one playoff appearance (though the team seems to have found some recent momentum under new starting quarterback Tony Romo).
The sweet spot for an owner, of course, is hiring a coach who can significantly improve a team's performance--without breaking the bank to do it. So which NFL coaches have provided owners with the highest return on their investments?
To find out, we analyzed the performance of each of the league's 32 teams since its current coach took the reins. We then compared the results to the team's performance during the five years that preceded his tenure. Coaches who improved their teams' fortunes were awarded points for increasing both the number of wins per season and the frequency with which they've led their teams to the playoffs, with an additional bonus for winning the Super Bowl (for which, incidentally, they are awarded the Vince Lombardi Trophy).
Points were then divided into the average salary a coach has earned since he's been with the team, producing a "dollars spent per point" figure used to determine which coaches provide the biggest bangs for the buck. The less spent per point, the more valuable--or cost-effective--the coach.
According to our results, the most valuable NFL coach is Bill Cowher of the Pittsburgh Steelers, who has taken his team to the playoffs in 10 of his 14 seasons and who won his first Super Bowl last season, all while averaging $2 million a year in salary since taking over in 1992. His 14-year tenure in Pittsburgh has cost the team just $191,277 per point, the lowest of any coach in the league. Cowher, having begun his career well before the industry's salary explosion of the early 2000s, owns an average career salary that is lower than the estimated $2.9 million median. But even based on his current $4 million income, he'd rank as one of the league's best investments.
Other top producers for the money include Cincinnati's Marvin Lewis ($214,411 per point), New England's Bill Belichick ($244,561), Denver's Mike Shanahan ($329,088) and Chicago's Lovie Smith ($239,474). Just missing our top 10 were Baltimore's Brian Billick ($489,386), a Super Bowl winner in 2000 who has raised his team's average win total to nine games from six since taking the helm seven years ago, and Philadelphia's Andy Reid ($519,950), who's averaged 10 wins a season since taking over in 1999, while leading his club to the playoffs five times.
Rookie coaches that have impressed so far, like the New York Jets' Eric Mangini, have a tougher time cracking the list--they haven't yet had the chance to accumulate post-season points. Look for such coaches to possibly move into most valuable territory in coming years (though one, New Orleans' Sean Payton, has already done enough in the 2006 regular season to qualify).
The biggest flops? In addition to Gibbs and Parcells, who respectively cost their clubs $2.1 million and $3 million per point, the list of costliest coaches includes the New York Giants' Tom Coughlin ($1.9 million per point), who has barely lifted his team's performance during the past three years despite a $3 million annual salary. But even he pales in comparison to Dennis Green of the Arizona Cardinals. Green, in his third year with the team and making $2.5 million a year, has yet to nudge the Cardinals' annual average win total past five, or to take the team to any playoffs. His cost works out to a whopping $8.2 million per point.
Sometimes, it pays to just promote an assistant and give him a token raise.
phibber
01-05-2007, 02:42 PM
The lowest paid HC comment came from the radio yesterday and it was a local sportwriter or TV host?
Please!Please!Please! The local media gets way too much credit for somehow being more intelligent and more credible than the rest of us hacks on this M/B.They read national news commentary and go on-line just like us. And with all that information they form an opinion just like us. Sometimes they say really stupid things just like us. If this local sportswriter or TV host is so ******* smart let him come on this board and explain to us inferior bozos how he "knows" the Cardinals are looking for a coach on the cheap. Until then, its just another stupid comment from someone who refuses to do any real legwork.
:rockon:
luman
01-10-2007, 08:12 PM
I hope I'm wrong but........................................
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