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DUSK884
01-06-2007, 07:36 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2535310,00.html

Revealed: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
Uzi Mahnaimi, New York and Sarah Baxter, Washington



ISRAEL has drawn up secret plans to destroy Iran’s uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons.
Two Israeli air force squadrons are training to blow up an Iranian facility using low-yield nuclear “bunker-busters”, according to several Israeli military sources.



The attack would be the first with nuclear weapons since 1945, when the United States dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Israeli weapons would each have a force equivalent to one-fifteenth of the Hiroshima bomb.

Under the plans, conventional laser-guided bombs would open “tunnels” into the targets. “Mini-nukes” would then immediately be fired into a plant at Natanz, exploding deep underground to reduce the risk of radioactive fallout.

“As soon as the green light is given, it will be one mission, one strike and the Iranian nuclear project will be demolished,” said one of the sources.

The plans, disclosed to The Sunday Times last week, have been prompted in part by the Israeli intelligence service Mossad’s assessment that Iran is on the verge of producing enough enriched uranium to make nuclear weapons within two years.

Israeli military commanders believe conventional strikes may no longer be enough to annihilate increasingly well-defended enrichment facilities. Several have been built beneath at least 70ft of concrete and rock. However, the nuclear-tipped bunker-busters would be used only if a conventional attack was ruled out and if the United States declined to intervene, senior sources said.

Israeli and American officials have met several times to consider military action. Military analysts said the disclosure of the plans could be intended to put pressure on Tehran to halt enrichment, cajole America into action or soften up world opinion in advance of an Israeli attack.

Some analysts warned that Iranian retaliation for such a strike could range from disruption of oil supplies to the West to terrorist attacks against Jewish targets around the world.

Israel has identified three prime targets south of Tehran which are believed to be involved in Iran’s nuclear programme:


Natanz, where thousands of centrifuges are being installed for uranium enrichment

A uranium conversion facility near Isfahan where, according to a statement by an Iranian vice-president last week, 250 tons of gas for the enrichment process have been stored in tunnels

A heavy water reactor at Arak, which may in future produce enough plutonium for a bomb
Israeli officials believe that destroying all three sites would delay Iran’s nuclear programme indefinitely and prevent them from having to live in fear of a “second Holocaust”.

The Israeli government has warned repeatedly that it will never allow nuclear weapons to be made in Iran, whose president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has declared that “Israel must be wiped off the map”.


Robert Gates, the new US defence secretary, has described military action against Iran as a “last resort”, leading Israeli officials to conclude that it will be left to them to strike.
Israeli pilots have flown to Gibraltar in recent weeks to train for the 2,000-mile round trip to the Iranian targets. Three possible routes have been mapped out, including one over Turkey.



Air force squadrons based at Hatzerim in the Negev desert and Tel Nof, south of Tel Aviv, have trained to use Israel’s tactical nuclear weapons on the mission. The preparations have been overseen by Major General Eliezer Shkedi, commander of the Israeli air force.

Sources close to the Pentagon said the United States was highly unlikely to give approval for tactical nuclear weapons to be used. One source said Israel would have to seek approval “after the event”, as it did when it crippled Iraq’s nuclear reactor at Osirak with airstrikes in 1981.

Scientists have calculated that although contamination from the bunker-busters could be limited, tons of radioactive uranium compounds would be released.

The Israelis believe that Iran’s retaliation would be constrained by fear of a second strike if it were to launch its Shehab-3 ballistic missiles at Israel.

However, American experts warned of repercussions, including widespread protests that could destabilise parts of the Islamic world friendly to the West.

Colonel Sam Gardiner, a Pentagon adviser, said Iran could try to close the Strait of Hormuz, the route for 20% of the world’s oil.

Some sources in Washington said they doubted if Israel would have the nerve to attack Iran. However, Dr Ephraim Sneh, the deputy Israeli defence minister, said last month: “The time is approaching when Israel and the international community will have to decide whether to take military action against Iran.”

Saturn5
01-06-2007, 08:43 PM
Will this be what starts Armageddon?

And the white house thinks they have problems in Iraq. If Israel attacks Iran, it will dwarf what is going on in Iraq. Does the United States have the diplomacy to stop this? Or if not stop it, then deal with the other Arab countries so that it does not involve the entire middle east?

Matthew 26:
52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him,
"for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."

Anne
01-07-2007, 12:31 PM
"Iran is also working to upgrade the type of centrifuge it has been using at Natanz. The National Council of Resistance revealed at a press conference in August that Iran was secretly producing P2 centrifuges in violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty. P2 centrifuges are second-generation and, according to nuclear experts, are "better and more effective" in enriching uranium"

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apage=2&cid=1167467659996&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

BoboCracker
01-07-2007, 10:01 PM
Islamic Messiah to Appear in 2007? - by Joel Rosenberg -
www.joelrosenberg.com<about:blank>

Leaders say it could be this spring

The New Year may not be so happy if Iranian leaders have their way.
The Islamic Messiah known as the "Twelfth Imam" or the "Mahdi" may
come to earth in 2007 and could be revealed to the world as early as
the Spring Equinox, reports an official Iranian government news
website. The Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB) website
says the world is now in its "last days." It claims that the Mahdi
will first appear in Mecca, and then Medina. He will conquer all of
Arabia, Syria, Iraq, destroy Israel, and then set up a "global
government" based in Iraq, interestingly enough, not Iran. Such
Islamic eschatology (end times theology) is driving the Iranian
regime and helps explains why Iran has no interest in helping the
U.S. and E.U. create peace in Iraq or the region, much less in
ending its bid for nuclear weapons, the Iraq Study Group Report
notwithstanding.

Anticipation of the imminent arrival or "illumination" of the
Islamic Messiah has been steadily intensifying inside Iran since
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad emerged as president of the country in June of
2005. A television series on IRIB called "The World Towards
Illumination" has been running since last November to help answer
the many questions Iranians have about the end of the world as we
know it. The series explains the signs of the last days and what to
expect when the Islamic Messiah arrives. The program also says that
Jesus is coming back to earth soon as a Shiite Muslim leader and it
denounces "born again Christians" for supporting "the illegal
Zionist state of Israel." An Israeli news site was the first to pick
up the story and its significance to Israeli national security,
noting that the Mahdi will soon "form an army to defeat Islam's
enemies in a series of apocalyptic battles" and "will overcome his
archvillain in Jerusalem."

Some intelligence analysts are growing concerned by Ahmadinejad's
announced plans "to hold the big celebration of Iran's full
nuclearization in the current year." Iran's calendar year ends on
March 20, which is the usual date of the Spring Equinox. Is
Ahmadinejad signaling that Iran will have nuclear weapons by then?
Is he suggesting that an apocalyptic war to annihilate Jews and
Christians in Israel and the U.S. could come in 2007, perhaps as
early as this spring or summer? It is not yet clear, though
Ahmadinejad today vowed to "humiliate" the U.S. and continues to vow
that Israel will "vanish" soon.

The IRIB series is important in that it offers some intriguing clues
as to how Iranian Shiites believe their prophecies will play out.
"After [the Twelfth Imam's] uprising from Mecca all of Arabia will
be submit to him and then other parts of the world as he marches
upon Iraq and established his seat of global government in the city
of Kufa. Then the Imam will send 10 thousand of his forces to the
east and west to uproot the oppressors. At this time God will
facilitate things for him and lands will come under his control one
after the other....He will appear as a handsome young man, clad in
neat clothes and exuding the fragrance of paradise. His face will
glow with love and kindness for the human beings....He has a radiant
forehead, black piercing eyes and a broad chest. He very much
resembles his ancestor Prophet Mohammad. Heavenly light and justice
accompany him. He will overcome enemies and oppressors with the help
of God, and as per the promise of the Almighty the Mahdi will
eradicate all corruption and injustice from the face of the earth
and establish the global government of peace, justice and equity."

The TV series notes that "in our discussion of the world in the last
days of the earth we had said in our previous editions of this
programme that no source has pointed to the exact date when the
Savior will appear and only God knows about the exact timing of the
reappearance of Imam Mahdi....There are various versions of the
exact day of his reappearance. Some say it would be Friday and the
date will be Ashura or the 10th of Moharram, the heart-rending
martyrdom anniversary of his illustrious ancestor, Imam Husain.
Others say the date will be the 25th of the month of Zil-Qa'dah and
may coincide with the Spring Equinox or Nowrooz as the Iranians
call. A saying attributed to the Prophet's 6th infallible heir, Imam
Ja'far Sadeq (PBUH) says the Mahdi will appear on the Spring Equinox
and God will make him defeat Dajjal the Impostor or the anti-Christ
as the Christians say, who will be hanged near the dump of Kufa."

Before the Islamic Messiah appears to the world, IRIB reports, "a
pious person...a venerable God-fearing individual from Iran" meets
with the Mahdi. This individual will pledge allegiance to the Mahdi
as he "fights oppression and corruption and enters Iraq to lift the
siege of Kufa and holy Najaf and to defeat the forces of [Islam's
enemies] in Iraq." It is not clear whether the program is referring
to President Ahmadinejad or someone to come.

Shiite Islamic scholars also say Jesus is coming back to Earth soon.
He will not, however, come as the Son of God or even as a leader but
will serve as a deputy to the Mahdi to destroy the infidels, they
say. "We read in the book Tazkarat ol-Olia, 'the Mahdi will come
with Jesus son of Mary accompanying him,'" the series explains.
"This indicates that these two great men are complement each other.
Imam Mahdi will be the leader while Prophet Jesus will act as his
lieutenant in the struggle against oppression and establishment of
justice in the world."

"The apocalypse is a deep belief among humans regarding the end of
the world," notes the Iranian documentary. "[O]ne of the
characteristics of the West in the current era is obsession with the
end of time. Experts say discussions about the savior and the 'end
of time', have not been so prevalent before as they are now in the
west....They believe the Messiah [is Jesus and that He] will
reappear and will establish his global rule with its center in
[Jerusalem], with the help of born again Christians. This sect's
religious leaders in the 1990's strongly propagated their beliefs in
the US and European societies. In the past two years dozens of books
have been published in this field....These extremist Christians
believe that certain events must be carried out by the Protestants
in the world so as to prepare the grounds for the Messiah's
reappearance. The followers of this school believe they have a
religious duty to accelerate these events, for example planting the
illegal Zionist state of Israel for the Jews of the world, in
Palestine."

Too many Western analysts are missing the central importance of
Shiite eschatology in Iranian foreign policy. They mistakenly
believe that Iran's current leadership can be somehow cajoled into
making peace with the West. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his cadre of loyal mullahs are not being
driven by the same goals and aspirations as are the diplomats in
Washington, Brussels or at the United Nations. The President of Iran
and his team fervently believe the Islamic Messiah is coming back
soon, possibly as soon as this Spring. They are convinced that their
divine mission is to create the conditions for the Mahdi's return.
As a result, they are committed to instigating more anti--American
violence in Iraq, not less. They are determined to obtain nuclear
weapons at all costs, not negotiate away their atomic research and
development program. What's more, they are deeply committed to
building political and military alliances with anti-Western powers,
not finding accomodation with the West.

Bottom line: the leaders of Iran are preparing for an apocalyptic
war with the U.S. and Israel. It's not a question of "if" but
"when." The sooner the White House and our new Congressional leaders
realize this and take decisive action to stop this nuclear
nightmare, the better.
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DUSK884
01-07-2007, 10:05 PM
Bottom line: the leaders of Iran are preparing for an apocalyptic
war with the U.S. and Israel. It's not a question of "if" but
"when." The sooner the White House and our new Congressional leaders
realize this and take decisive action to stop this nuclear
nightmare, the better.

Amen. Time to smite them down. Sooner is better.

Saturn5
01-08-2007, 07:53 AM
This is absolutely not what America wants. War means instability. Instability means oil flow decreases and investment decreases. Too bad the white house clearly does not comprehend these likely consequences.

ambushk
01-09-2007, 12:02 PM
Anyone that supports the use of nukes, is "flirttin' with disaster". If Iran really wanted to they could get their hands on a nuke without even having a centrifuge. If you believe there aren't any "floatin" around the black market, you're dreamin'.

As much as I believe in God, I don't believe he wants a possible world war started by a bunch of over zealous Jews. They can claim to be God's people. That doesn't make it so. They can claim it will make us all safer. It won't make it so. The concept of "War to end all war", is a joke. Violence begets violence.

Of course my belief in "God's will" can't be right, if it doesn't agree with someone else's. Keep God out of it, it's a control issue. Period!

BigDinGlenDale
01-09-2007, 12:48 PM
Destroy nukes with nukes...there's nothing ironic about this at all.