Dansby should be a Bengal!

[crisper57]

:Cards logo: Of course, I am being sarcastic...:Cards logo:

See story below...

Cardinals Player Cited for Improperly Carrying Gun
January 24th, 2007 @ 6:24pm by KTAR Newsroom
A player for the Arizona Cardinals got in a little trouble with the law.
Around 2 a.m. Friday, a Gilbert police officer pulled Karlos Dansby over for going 10 miles over the speed limit and not having a license plate.

Sgt. Andrew Duncan said the officer asked if Dansby had a gun. Dansby said yes, but that gun was not in a holster and not in the glove compartment. That's illegal.

"It's a rather technical manner of how to carry a gun properly within a vehicle, and the law is very cumbersome and not everyone understands it," he said.

Duncan stressed that Dansby was polite and cooperative through the whole traffic stop.

"He did state, up front, that he did have a gun in there and unfortunately, he didn't have it stored in the vehicle as the law requires and he was issued a citation at the scene for improperly carrying that gun," said Duncan.

Dansby now has a court date on a misdemeanor weapons charge.

[Cardsfan2000]

:Cards logo: Of course, I am being sarcastic...:Cards logo:

See story below...

Cardinals Player Cited for Improperly Carrying Gun
January 24th, 2007 @ 6:24pm by KTAR Newsroom
A player for the Arizona Cardinals got in a little trouble with the law.
Around 2 a.m. Friday, a Gilbert police officer pulled Karlos Dansby over for going 10 miles over the speed limit and not having a license plate.

Sgt. Andrew Duncan said the officer asked if Dansby had a gun. Dansby said yes, but that gun was not in a holster and not in the glove compartment. That's illegal.

"It's a rather technical manner of how to carry a gun properly within a vehicle, and the law is very cumbersome and not everyone understands it," he said.

Duncan stressed that Dansby was polite and cooperative through the whole traffic stop.

"He did state, up front, that he did have a gun in there and unfortunately, he didn't have it stored in the vehicle as the law requires and he was issued a citation at the scene for improperly carrying that gun," said Duncan.

Dansby now has a court date on a misdemeanor weapons charge.

That's a first but unfortunate for one of the cleanest organizations in sports. Maybe now we have a little more insight as to why Denny was so down on Dansby....

[OldDirtMcGirt]

:Cards logo: Of course, I am being sarcastic...:Cards logo:

See story below...

Cardinals Player Cited for Improperly Carrying Gun
January 24th, 2007 @ 6:24pm by KTAR Newsroom
A player for the Arizona Cardinals got in a little trouble with the law.
Around 2 a.m. Friday, a Gilbert police officer pulled Karlos Dansby over for going 10 miles over the speed limit and not having a license plate.

Sgt. Andrew Duncan said the officer asked if Dansby had a gun. Dansby said yes, but that gun was not in a holster and not in the glove compartment. That's illegal.

"It's a rather technical manner of how to carry a gun properly within a vehicle, and the law is very cumbersome and not everyone understands it," he said.

Duncan stressed that Dansby was polite and cooperative through the whole traffic stop.

"He did state, up front, that he did have a gun in there and unfortunately, he didn't have it stored in the vehicle as the law requires and he was issued a citation at the scene for improperly carrying that gun," said Duncan.

Dansby now has a court date on a misdemeanor weapons charge.

Doesn't sound too bad as long as the gun was liscensed and legally owned. This is pretty mild compared to the other stuff going around in the league, and it shouldn't have an effect on Dansby getting resigned.

[whiteshark17]

Oh please, he wasn't arrested and didn't even do anything that serious. So, what, he was polite and the officer said it is a common error made by people.

[Cardsfan2000]

Oh please, he wasn't arrested and didn't even do anything that serious. So, what, he was polite and the officer said it is a common error made by people.

Yeah that's true..... I'll give KD the benefit of the doubt, and it's great that we almost never read about our :Cards logo: getting into trouble.

[crisper57]

If that is the worst thing we have to deal with, I'll be fine. Generally a good group from all our AZ teams. Proud to be a fan.

[HAVACARDSFAN]

:Cards logo: Of course, I am being sarcastic...:Cards logo:

See story below...

Cardinals Player Cited for Improperly Carrying Gun
January 24th, 2007 @ 6:24pm by KTAR Newsroom
A player for the Arizona Cardinals got in a little trouble with the law.
Around 2 a.m. Friday, a Gilbert police officer pulled Karlos Dansby over for going 10 miles over the speed limit and not having a license plate.

Sgt. Andrew Duncan said the officer asked if Dansby had a gun. Dansby said yes, but that gun was not in a holster and not in the glove compartment. That's illegal.

"It's a rather technical manner of how to carry a gun properly within a vehicle, and the law is very cumbersome and not everyone understands it," he said.

Duncan stressed that Dansby was polite and cooperative through the whole traffic stop.

"He did state, up front, that he did have a gun in there and unfortunately, he didn't have it stored in the vehicle as the law requires and he was issued a citation at the scene for improperly carrying that gun," said Duncan.

Dansby now has a court date on a misdemeanor weapons charge.

It didn't say where the gun was located. I don't think it has to be holstered as long as it is not concealed (under the seat, covered with something, or under his coat, etc.). He may have had it on the seat covered by something. He obviously was not trying to hide it intentionally because he told the officer he had it, which is the first rule if you have a gun in the car. :Cards logo:

[Heucrazy]

He probably had it under his seat and thought it was ok to be there. The cop said himself that it was a common mistake and he only gave Dansby a ticket.

[#1CARDSFAN2007]

Not sure why he wouldn't have license plates.That's odd to say the least.Not a big deal though and not a true Bengal.

[crisper57]

Not sure why he wouldn't have license plates.That's odd to say the least.Not a big deal though and not a true Bengal.

Was he heading for the traffic camera corridor on the 101? :sarcasm:

[RogueCardinal]

This doesn't concern me at all and for the poster to make reference to the Bengals is ridiculous. Sounds like a simple misunderstanding, Dansby was not confrontational with the officer at all.

[Cardsfan50]

Pal, if you think this episode is the same as the stuff the Bengals have been doing, you need to go back to Jr. High for a civics class.

Having a gun in the car is completely legal in Arizona. I don't know what additional rules Gilbert may have, but the officer wasn't worried.

The license plate thing is about as petty as speeding.

This whole thread is the kind of sensationalism the press engages in, not people on this board. Thank God for that too.

[crisper57]

Pal, if you think this episode is the same as the stuff the Bengals have been doing, you need to go back to Jr. High for a civics class.

Having a gun in the car is completely legal in Arizona. I don't know what additional rules Gilbert may have, but the officer wasn't worried.

The license plate thing is about as petty as speeding.

This whole thread is the kind of sensationalism the press engages in, not people on this board. Thank God for that too.

Re-read my original post. It begins with...

Of course, I am being sarcastic...

See story below...

How you can skip over my bolded text is beyond me. I don't equate this to anything the Bengals do. I was just having fun with the title.

[az602]

Doesn't sound too bad as long as the gun was liscensed and legally owned. This is pretty mild compared to the other stuff going around in the league, and it shouldn't have an effect on Dansby getting resigned.

This is Arizona. You can carry a gun openly with no permit, old west style if you want to. There is no such thing as a gun license here. When you by a gun from a store you must pass an instant background check for the ATF. But it is perfectly legal to buy one from a private owner. I have bought 2 guns from ads in the paper. To carry a gun in the car, it can be sitting on the seat next to you. I used to stick mine between the driver's and passenger's seats. When I got pulled over, the officer just asked me to hand it to him...when he was done he handed it back. In order for it to be illegally carried it would have to have been concealed, i.e. under the seat, under papers or a coat, tucked into the back of your pants, etc. without a CCW. Which is so easy to obtain, I'm not sure why he didn't get one...

http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/AZSL.pdf

[OldDirtMcGirt]

This is Arizona. You can carry a gun openly with no permit, old west style if you want to. There is no such thing as a gun license here. When you by a gun from a store you must pass an instant background check for the ATF. But it is perfectly legal to buy one from a private owner. I have bought 2 guns from ads in the paper. To carry a gun in the car, it can be sitting on the seat next to you. I used to stick mine between the driver's and passenger's seats. When I got pulled over, the officer just asked me to hand it to him...when he was done he handed it back. In order for it to be illegally carried it would have to have been concealed, i.e. under the seat, under papers or a coat, tucked into the back of your pants, etc. without a CCW. Which is so easy to obtain, I'm not sure why he didn't get one...

http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/AZSL.pdf

****, that must be nice. I live up in Washington and the gun laws here are insane, I had to go through hours upon hours of training just to be liscensed to have a handgun in my house. Wish I was still back in AZ.

[HAVACARDSFAN]

****, that must be nice. I live up in Washington and the gun laws here are insane, I had to go through hours upon hours of training just to be liscensed to have a handgun in my house. Wish I was still back in AZ.

Where in Wash? :Cards logo:

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Where in Wash? :Cards logo:

I commute back and forth between Seattle and Spokane.

[HAVACARDSFAN]

Long trip...what do you do?:Cards logo:

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Long trip...what do you do?:Cards logo:

I work for Ford Motor Co., and help with arranging shipments, parts, etc. Plus, I fly over, so it really isn't that bad.

[Regnevelc]

He has a gun, obviously something illegal.


:), just kidding.

[Regnevelc]

I work for Ford Motor Co., and help with arranging shipments, parts, etc. Plus, I fly over, so it really isn't that bad.

Oh! I am doing a case study on them this year.

[HAVACARDSFAN]

I work for Ford Motor Co., and help with arranging shipments, parts, etc. Plus, I fly over, so it really isn't that bad.

Good...driving would be bad news. :Cards logo:

[HebrewHammer]

Good...driving would be bad news. :Cards logo:

Unless it was a Titleist!!!!:poke:

[M0J0]

That's a first but unfortunate for one of the cleanest organizations in sports. Maybe now we have a little more insight as to why Denny was so down on Dansby....
:Huh: Are you kidding?
Oh please, he wasn't arrested and didn't even do anything that serious. So, what, he was polite and the officer said it is a common error made by people.
This is a non story.
If that is the worst thing we have to deal with, I'll be fine. Generally a good group from all our AZ teams. Proud to be a fan.
Now they need to win a few more games.

[SunDevilDon]

Man, this just goes to show you how racist the Gilbert PD is. I would be interested in knowing what he was driving...

Here's the thing though. How many of you have been pulled over for something minor like going 10 over or expired tags (or a missing plate) and asked if you had a GUN???

I have been pulled over on about 4 occassions in my life, and NEVER asked if I had a gun. Of course, I'm caucasion so why would they ask me, right?

I also think that Cincinnati PD has a bounty out on the Bengals players. That police department has been known for its racism for years now, and I believe that they are being Targeted, if not because they are Bengals, but because they are black. Ironic since UC has one of the best CRJ programs in the country.

[HAVACARDSFAN]

Unless it was a Titleist!!!!:poke:

GOOD ONE!!! I needed that. :Cards logo:

[Tengeta]

This is as stupid as the Tank Johnson arrest... I heard he is a AZ resident and will appeal his gun charges though.

Why do liberals protect the constitution with their life unless its the 2nd amendment? Do they want the government to have overwhelming power over us?

[Cardsfan1539]

Im just proud of how Dansby handeled himself in it. Was polite and said upfront that he does have a gun. And i think everyone will see that and only give him a fine and maybe a semenar or something to go to.

[Heucrazy]

Man, this just goes to show you how racist the Gilbert PD is. I would be interested in knowing what he was driving...

Here's the thing though. How many of you have been pulled over for something minor like going 10 over or expired tags (or a missing plate) and asked if you had a GUN???

I have been pulled over on about 4 occassions in my life, and NEVER asked if I had a gun. Of course, I'm caucasion so why would they ask me, right?

I also think that Cincinnati PD has a bounty out on the Bengals players. That police department has been known for its racism for years now, and I believe that they are being Targeted, if not because they are Bengals, but because they are black. Ironic since UC has one of the best CRJ programs in the country.

I got pulled over going 75 on the 10 and the cop asked me if I had a gun. And I'm white.

[az602]

Here's the thing though. How many of you have been pulled over for something minor like going 10 over or expired tags (or a missing plate) and asked if you had a GUN???



4 times Don. And I'm lily white (although I have been mistaken for Hispanic in the summertime). Nevermind the fact that the answer was ALWAYS "Why yes, I do have a gun!" The question was probably due to the lack of license plates & speeding. It was probably the first words out of the cops mouth before he even checked his license. The article is wrong, though, he could carry it on his frickin dashboard as long as it's not concealed. It DOESN'T have to be in a holster in the glove box to be legal.

It is unlawful to carry a firearm concealed within the immediate control of any person in or on a means of transportation. This does not apply to firearms carried in a case, holster or scabbard in a means of transportation or a storage compartment, trunk, pack, luggage, or glove compartment of a means of transportation.

He could hang it on a chain from the rear-view mirror. With $140 bucks and a set of fingerprints he could get a CCW and carry it in his ***, if he wanted. Fortunately, regardless of the outcome of this incident, he can still get a CCW, since the charge is not a felony.

I'm surprised that the Cards' organization wasn't more helpful in this capacity, since most of the players are or will be millionaires, personal protection is likely and understanding the local laws seems kind of an important bit of information to have. I don't know if they concern themselves with this sort of thing, but I'll bet MOST of the players own and/or carry guns.

[crdnl85]

Karlos needs to be a :Cards logo: Cardinal for many years to come.:Cards logo:

[azpower]

I go to church, I help people when I can.......but Im strapped every time Im in my vehicle. I hide the 7 under the seat in case a loco tries to intmidate. West Side!:bowdown:

[SLaNGiN iN AZ]

yeah its not like he's going to jail *Chris Henry*... besides, the media didn't make a big deal out of it at all! KTAR news isn't exactly a 'deal'...

[whiteshark17]

Man, this just goes to show you how racist the Gilbert PD is. I would be interested in knowing what he was driving...

Here's the thing though. How many of you have been pulled over for something minor like going 10 over or expired tags (or a missing plate) and asked if you had a GUN???

I have been pulled over on about 4 occassions in my life, and NEVER asked if I had a gun. Of course, I'm caucasion so why would they ask me, right?

I also think that Cincinnati PD has a bounty out on the Bengals players. That police department has been known for its racism for years now, and I believe that they are being Targeted, if not because they are Bengals, but because they are black. Ironic since UC has one of the best CRJ programs in the country.

Oh please, I am so sick of people playing the race card. If it wasn't for so many people playing it over petty little things, then we would actually be able to move on in this world. But it's black journalists who act like every negative thing that happens to an African American is racist that is the problem. Not to mention the big fuss about two black coaches in the Super Bowl. If you didn't make such a big deal about it, and be all like, "See, we are smart enough!" Then their wouldn't be a problem. It should just be a stat, not the most talked about aspect of this game. Until both blacks and whites quite making a big deal about a story because of it's race, no matter it be a positive or negative one, we will never be able to get past it.

This is as stupid as the Tank Johnson arrest... I heard he is a AZ resident and will appeal his gun charges though.

Why do liberals protect the constitution with their life unless its the 2nd amendment? Do they want the government to have overwhelming power over us?

Oh please, don't start putting all liberals under one umbrella. For one, I'm a Catholic, go to church every Sunday, and I am a Democrat/ liberal. Heck, the Republicans/ conservatives put all the money up at the top and don't share. That's not very Christ like. But back to guns, if you read the second amendment it gives a, "well organized militia" the right to bear arms. Would you consider Billy Jo Hick out in the sticks a "well organized militia"? I think we have to be smart and realized that we obviously botched that amendment, and just change it to allow people to have guns. Oh my gosh, I'm a liberal, and I think you should be able to have guns. Don't generalize.

[SunDevilDon]

4 times Don. And I'm lily white (although I have been mistaken for Hispanic in the summertime). Nevermind the fact that the answer was ALWAYS "Why yes, I do have a gun!" The question was probably due to the lack of license plates & speeding. It was probably the first words out of the cops mouth before he even checked his license. The article is wrong, though, he could carry it on his frickin dashboard as long as it's not concealed. It DOESN'T have to be in a holster in the glove box to be legal.



He could hang it on a chain from the rear-view mirror. With $140 bucks and a set of fingerprints he could get a CCW and carry it in his ***, if he wanted. Fortunately, regardless of the outcome of this incident, he can still get a CCW, since the charge is not a felony.

I'm surprised that the Cards' organization wasn't more helpful in this capacity, since most of the players are or will be millionaires, personal protection is likely and understanding the local laws seems kind of an important bit of information to have. I don't know if they concern themselves with this sort of thing, but I'll bet MOST of the players own and/or carry guns.

I don't undestand why these guys don't get their CCW's, but I'd like to point out that it is not typical of a City Police Officer to ask if you have a gun. I have been on numerous ride-a-longs and have many friends that are cops, and it's not the norm.

GPD is a very "conservative" PD (as well as the community) and them, along with Mesa, discriminate against their own officers, i.e. showing favortism to officers of a certain religious affiliation.

[az602]

I don't undestand why these guys don't get their CCW's, but I'd like to point out that it is not typical of a City Police Officer to ask if you have a gun. I have been on numerous ride-a-longs and have many friends that are cops, and it's not the norm.

GPD is a very "conservative" PD (as well as the community) and them, along with Mesa, discriminate against their own officers, i.e. showing favortism to officers of a certain religious affiliation.

That's true of most cops, anywhere. Since most of the athletes that get a DUI get off easy (contrary to Joe Citizen and the laws in place), I'm surprised this jerk made an issue out of it. Dansby wasn't threatening, he came clean immediately, he was obviously ignorant of the law (or confused), why push the issue? What harm was done? Is it really important to "punish" someone for something as ridiculous as this? Is it worth filling out the paperwork on such a non-crime as this? Isn't a warning sufficient? In this case maybe you're right, a little good-old-boy racism. Probably smiled at Dansby the whole time and asked for his autograph before sticking it to him...

[Joe84]

I don't care who you are, if you are driving around town, and a cop pulls up behind you and you are dumb enough NOT to have plates on you're getting pulled over. It was probably more noticeable because the guy was probably drving around in a Lamborghini or something ridiculously flashy around the freaking crappy east side.

[AZFAN777]

Doesn't sound too bad as long as the gun was liscensed and legally owned. This is pretty mild compared to the other stuff going around in the league, and it shouldn't have an effect on Dansby getting resigned.

what a stupid response to this story. For someone who is constantly rambling about being a patriot and civil rights, you sure dont know much about America. It's Dansby's right to own a weapon and to carry it in his car. It's not our place to judge why he had it. LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE GUNS dude. The cop even said that Dansby wasn't doing anything shady, he just obviously didn't understand the law, as many people dont.

It's his responsibility to have it stored properly in the vehicle and to identify to police that he has it. He admitted to the cop up front that he had it in the car so he obviously has nothing to hide. I have gone to the indoor shooting range with my pistol many times and I'm not so sure I understand the law based on what the cop said. I've probably been guilty by the letter of the law as well.

It's hilarious, in this country, if a white guy owns a gun, he's just a good American. If a black guy gets caught with a gun, he's a thug and a hoodlum. SO retarded.

[wegoingtothesuperbowl]

This isn't a big deal. So he messed up he's human!

[Hammer]

Guys, I carry on a daily basis. Sometime you get in a rush and just set it on the seat so you can hurry and leave. He wasnt hidding it and Dansby was very respectfull. Just because Dansby is a PRO-Athlete doesnt mean he shouldnt get the same rights as every one else. If he had a past record I would be concerned.

[HAVACARDSFAN]

It's no big deal. He had it covered or something and he learned a valuable lesson. I always have a revolver on the seat whenever I go to Phoenix or Las Vegas...wouldn't be without it. The rest of the team will also learn from this incident. :Cards logo:

[ZOna_Style]

big deal.:topic:

[HAVACARDSFAN]

big deal.:topic:

I agree...Time to drop this thread. :Cards logo:

[sharkman]

It's no big deal. He had it covered or something and he learned a valuable lesson. I always have a revolver on the seat whenever I go to Phoenix or Las Vegas...wouldn't be without it. The rest of the team will also learn from this incident. :Cards logo:


I always like to carry a blonde on the seat when I go to Vegas.


(j/k) :toot:

[HAVACARDSFAN]

I always like to carry a blonde on the seat when I go to Vegas.


(j/k) :toot:

I usually do...She holds my gun!!!!!!:bluelol: :cheers: :jumping: :Cards logo:

[Longcolts]

Gentlemen (and Ladies) let me inform you that as a former Peace Officer in the State of Arizona that carrying a weapon of any kind in this state is not illegal (unless of course it is a weapon that it is illegal to own without a permit, such as an automatic weapon [which does require a permit]) or unless it is improperly concealed (i.e. any weapon that is carried in a glove compartment whether it is holstered or not). You may carry a weapon (Firearm) under your seat as long as it is in a scabbard (holster). You may never carry a weapon in a glove compartment (without a CCW Permit). This because of the ease of access to said weapon. If you carry a weapon under the seat you must first be able to access that weapon then be able to unsheath the weapon before its use! A very unnatural act to perform with any speed. Carrying in the glove compartment makes the access of the concealed weapon, a matter of fact, a simple matter whether it's holstered or not! In the state of AZ you may carry a weapon, registered or not (registration of a weapon in this state is not required)
as long as it is not concealed! On the seat, on the dash, in your lap, it doesn't matter (hell it can be in your hand in plain sight) but if you place a magazine, a towel, a blanket, a coat over said weapon then it is considered to be concealed and in violation of state laws. This is a somewhat simplifed version of Title 10 of the A.R.S. (Arizona Revised Statutes) but should help clarify this! Chances are he had place the weapon under the seat but failed to place it in a scabbard (holster). This has been a common mistake and is considered a misdemeanor! It ain't no biggie!

:Cards logo:

[AussieCardinal]

That's a first but unfortunate for one of the cleanest organizations in sports. Maybe now we have a little more insight as to why Denny was so down on Dansby....

Denny is an idiot. he has nothing to do with dansby