Enough w/ the AP Talk Already!!!

[ako_77]

Seriously we have much more important needs than taking a back-up RB. Yes he was talent blah blah blah.

Running backs have relatively short careers in the NFL and if we had say Walter Jones on our left side or say Champ Bailey at CB or Julius Pepper at DE then yes we could use a luxury like AP.

We need to draft end this order from biggest need

1) Joe Thomas or Levi Brown
2) Gaines Adams or Jamal Anderson
3) Laron Landry, Chris Houston, Darelle Reives (yes I know Landry is a Safety and we now have Hood)
4) Patrick Willis

Unfortunately only a couple of those names are even worth the 5th overall.

If Thomas is gone please trade down and get better value.

I do like Willis and was surprised that he is as fast as he is 4.37 40 WOW a 240 lber faster than AP.

[cardinal eric]

my pool would look like this:1.Thomas,2.L.Brown,3.Adams,4.Anderson.Our immediate need is a tackle.Joe Thomas is the best in this class but Levi is a strong #2...I'd be thrilled with either one but prefer Thomas.There is just something about him that stands out when you watch him play...maybe I'm wrong.

[BulldogsCards]

As of late the highest rated lineman in the draft have been somewhat overrated. They get to the NFL and are flat. You can't teach a motor. Houston drafting Mario Williams last year is a good example of why a team should draft a player like Reggie Bush or Adrian Peterson. You always take your studs first and get your lineman later or you could be stuck with a Robert Gallery or Calvin Pace. The Cardinals cannot continue to make dumb moves on draft day and miss getting players like LT and Brian Urlacher in the past and Patrick Willis, Adrian Peterson this year or someone else will pick them and they'll be making plays and scoring against us in the future. Hey, if they're desperate enough for a good OT they should make a trade for one. A veteran would be more effective at improving the o-line anyways.

[DUSK884]

I'm all for AP if he's there and I'd gamble that's who we go with if he is.

Coach Whis wants a bruising 2 back rushing attack. We could use this guy.

Smashmouth is coming to Glendale (giving Fitz/Boldin many more big plays) and it's going to be a blast.

[TrueHeroTillman]

i'm gonna trust Whis that he'll pick the right guy for our team. To dismiss Peterson at 5 is downright foolish.

[BullheadCardFan]

5 weeks from tomorrow until the draft ...

:greenjumpers:

[HAVACARDSFAN]

5 weeks from tomorrow until the draft ...

:greenjumpers:

Now it's 5 weeks from today...can't wait.

:toothorn: :partytime: :jumping: :cheers:

[Drachir]

Seriously we have much more important needs than taking a back-up RB. Yes he was talent blah blah blah.

Running backs have relatively short careers in the NFL and if we had say Walter Jones on our left side or say Champ Bailey at CB or Julius Pepper at DE then yes we could use a luxury like AP.

We need to draft end this order from biggest need

1) Joe Thomas or Levi Brown
2) Gaines Adams or Jamal Anderson
3) Laron Landry, Chris Houston, Darelle Reives (yes I know Landry is a Safety and we now have Hood)
4) Patrick Willis

Unfortunately only a couple of those names are even worth the 5th overall.

If Thomas is gone please trade down and get better value.

I do like Willis and was surprised that he is as fast as he is 4.37 40 WOW a 240 lber faster than AP.To not consider AP is completely foolish. To even NOT consider Calvin Johnson is also foolish as in the draft and especially at #5 BPA is the way to go. You DON'T reach for needs in the draft as you pick up needs via FA. We plugged many holes via FA already althuogh OL still needs to be addressed but I am NOT too worried about that since Brandon Gorin played on the Super Bowl New England Patriots and STARTED in that Super Bowl. Oliver Ross was just fine playing on the perinnial playoff contender Pittsburgh Steelers and took a step back under the musical chair offensive scheme of Dennis Green and that wonderful talent of a offensive line coach in Everett Lindsay *sarcasm*. The 2nd wave of FA has yet to happen, heck the first wave of FA isn't done yet. You fill needs via FA, and create depth through the draft. It is that simple.

[BulldogsCards]

To not consider AP is completely foolish. To even NOT consider Calvin Johnson is also foolish as in the draft and especially at #5 BPA is the way to go. You DON'T reach for needs in the draft as you pick up needs via FA. We plugged many holes via FA already althuogh OL still needs to be addressed but I am NOT too worried about that since Brandon Gorin played on the Super Bowl New England Patriots and STARTED in that Super Bowl. Oliver Ross was just fine playing on the perinnial playoff contender Pittsburgh Steelers and took a step back under the musical chair offensive scheme of Dennis Green and that wonderful talent of a offensive line coach in Everett Lindsay *sarcasm*. The 2nd wave of FA has yet to happen, heck the first wave of FA isn't done yet. You fill needs via FA, and create depth through the draft. It is that simple.

I agree, this team is not as bad off as some seem to think it is. I wouldn't be upset if we drafted Calvin Johnson either because he's one of the best players available. I mean the guy is going to be a stud.

[DUSK884]

What are you going to do when you see Matt in the Shotgun with BOLDIN, FITZ, BJ, and CALVIN JOHNSON lined up?

Weep and hope you aren't the one who gets beat IMO.

CJ, AP, whoever... there's more than a few great ones to grab for BPA at pick 5.

[HAVACARDSFAN]

What are you going to do when you see Matt in the Shotgun with BOLDIN, FITZ, BJ, and CALVIN JOHNSON lined up?

Weep and hope you aren't the one who gets beat IMO.

CJ, AP, whoever... there's more than a few great ones to grab for BPA at pick 5.

I think Matt might be the one weeping if we don't get a line to protect him...IMHO!!!! :whistle:

[Cardsfan50]

Since you AP relatives keep starting new threads about BPA and drafting AP, I am going to continue saying it is stupid to draft any more RB or WR or QB until we have a good left tackle. Using the first round pick on anyone other than Joe Thomas or Levi Brown is just plain foolish.

Remember what happened to Edge last year when he tried to run behind our line early in the year? If you think AP would have done any better your'e nuts. Now we have no capable left tackle at all--NONE. Ross and Gorin are only backups. If we draft AP he and Edge will not be able to run to the left side and Matt will be looking at rushing DE all day or the sky from his butt.

[ako_77]

As of late the highest rated lineman in the draft have been somewhat overrated. They get to the NFL and are flat. You can't teach a motor. Houston drafting Mario Williams last year is a good example of why a team should draft a player like Reggie Bush or Adrian Peterson. You always take your studs first and get your lineman later or you could be stuck with a Robert Gallery or Calvin Pace. The Cardinals cannot continue to make dumb moves on draft day and miss getting players like LT and Brian Urlacher in the past and Patrick Willis, Adrian Peterson this year or someone else will pick them and they'll be making plays and scoring against us in the future. Hey, if they're desperate enough for a good OT they should make a trade for one. A veteran would be more effective at improving the o-line anyways.

Are you related to AP?

You are already comparing him to Reggie Bush?

I am sorry but I never saw AP do moves like Reggie Bush. Bush's lateral movement is incredile.

AP might end up being a great player someday but I think we are better off protecting our QB.

As far as Willis I don't disagree... I think he would be a great pick as we could get (pardon the pun) twice as much run out of Willis than AP.

Oh and by the way if Reggie Bush was availabe this year I would take him regardless... unless we had say a "Edge" in his prime.

Please convince me that AP is a can't miss stud and I'll drink the Kool-Aid but I don't think AP is in the same league as Reggie.

[JayGee]

Are you related to AP?

You are already comparing him to Reggie Bush?

I am sorry but I never saw AP do moves like Reggie Bush. Bush's lateral movement is incredile.

AP might end up being a great player someday but I think we are better off protecting our QB.

As far as Willis I don't disagree... I think he would be a great pick as we could get (pardon the pun) twice as much run out of Willis than AP.

Oh and by the way if Reggie Bush was availabe this year I would take him regardless... unless we had say a "Edge" in his prime.

Please convince me that AP is a can't miss stud and I'll drink the Kool-Aid but I don't think AP is in the same league as Reggie.

where AP lacks the lateral abilities reggie bush has he has the size advantage over reggie at 6'2 225lbs... the guy is going to be an immediate star for whatever team he lands on... he will instill fear in defenses.

[ako_77]

This may make you all feel better.

I was not on the Vince Young bandwagon and still am not... however he did look fairly impressive last year so I am publicly stating that I was wrong on him.

I think AP will probably end up being a 10,000+ yard for his career guy, but Barry Sanders (one of if not the greatest) did exactly win much.

Yes, I do not want us reaching for a need which Joe Thomas is not.

I would even argue drafting Patrick Willis or Jamaal Anderson is not a reach.

If Thomas isn't there I would rather have us move down, pick up an extra pick, and let others make the pick for us (bear with me a moment).

Lets say Calvin Johnson is there (yes he will probably be the best WR ever blah blah... I get the hype he is good) Given that we already have a couple of great ones we could trade down with Minnesota who desperatly needs a WR and perhaps get an extra pick and still be able to select say Levi Brown, Laron Landry, Jamaal Anderson, Gaines Adams, or Patrick Willis.

Now one of those guys isn't just value that is a great pick especially with another quality player we would pick up later on.

Even if New England was interested I would love that trade.

We could get Tackles Joe Staley or Tony Ugoh, Paul Poslusny or Tim Shaw at LB, Justin Blalock OG/T or pershaps one of the fast moving up the boards CB like Darrel Revies, Eric Wright, Chris Houston, or maybe a Safety like Reggie Nelson would be at the end of the 1st round.

All I am saying is lets not just lock in on AP he would not be at the top of my dream scenarios.

[NightHawk11and81]

What are you going to do when you see Matt in the Shotgun with BOLDIN, FITZ, BJ, and CALVIN JOHNSON lined up?


Weep because Matt's going to need a two-second release tops to find them.

[BulldogsCards]

Are you related to AP?

You are already comparing him to Reggie Bush?

I am sorry but I never saw AP do moves like Reggie Bush. Bush's lateral movement is incredile.

AP might end up being a great player someday but I think we are better off protecting our QB.

As far as Willis I don't disagree... I think he would be a great pick as we could get (pardon the pun) twice as much run out of Willis than AP.

Oh and by the way if Reggie Bush was availabe this year I would take him regardless... unless we had say a "Edge" in his prime.

Please convince me that AP is a can't miss stud and I'll drink the Kool-Aid but I don't think AP is in the same league as Reggie.

Patrick Willis is my first choice and I'm not related to AP so don't go there. I just don't think Joe Thomas or Levi Brown is going to solve our o-line problems. We will need to make a trade for a veteran IMO or if not Grimm will make the line a good one with his coaching anyways. And how do you know if Adrian Peterson will not be a good pick? - to answer your challenge. As far as the draft, Blalock or Ugoh in round two will be solid picks. Marshall Yanda out of Iowa will also be a great pass protector at the next level IMO.

[ako_77]

One more note:

I understand the trade down concerns,

I will never understand why we drafted Calvin Pace, Wendell Bryant and Bryant Johnson are two players who at least had the hype going for them.

I still wish we had picked Terrel Suggs.

I too don't want the Cards to make another bad pick... We did pick Fitz & Boldin... not too shabby there.

Rolle will probably turn out okay.

Hey like one person said earlier I will trust the Whiz.

Can't wait to see who we get!

[Drachir]

Since you AP relatives keep starting new threads about BPA and drafting AP, I am going to continue saying it is stupid to draft any more RB or WR or QB until we have a good left tackle. Using the first round pick on anyone other than Joe Thomas or Levi Brown is just plain foolish.

Remember what happened to Edge last year when he tried to run behind our line early in the year? If you think AP would have done any better your'e nuts. Now we have no capable left tackle at all--NONE. Ross and Gorin are only backups. If we draft AP he and Edge will not be able to run to the left side and Matt will be looking at rushing DE all day or the sky from his butt.John Thomas is that you? You must be Joe Thomas' brother or something as you appear to be related to him. I mean why else do you have so much concern for Joe Thomas being selected high in the draft because if he is selected BPA he falls to about #10 and even that is questionable. If you draft him on need that he is gone at #2 or #3 to Detroit or Cleveland.

Remember what happened the year before when we had Everett "Clueless" Lindsay coaching the offensive line? Failed experiment. Remember last year when the offensive line was shuffled around and the same 5 OL didn't start a game together until about week 11 or so? You know musical offensive linemen. This is the NEW Cardinals under the Whisenhunt/Grimm regime and I guarantee you that we WILL know who are starting offensive line is by the first preseason game. NO more musical offensive linemen.

Remember last year when Dennis Green picked up Brandon Gorin from the New England Patriots for this year's 6th round draft pick in which Brandon didn't play a game last year and was inactive for the most part? Remember when Brandon Gorin STARTED for New England when they won the Super Bowl three years ago? Remember when Oliver Ross was labeled a pretty good run protecting offensive tackle for the perennial playoff contender Pittsburgh Steelers and was protecting a very slow Tommy Maddox as their QB? Remember when he started ALL 16 games for the Pittsburgh Steelers in 2004 in which Pittsburgh went 15-1? Say it isn't so? I mean it couldn't have anything to do with musical coaches, offensive line sets, and poor coaching? or could it?

[BillsFan618]

Peterson is not even in the nfl yet, this is just like the vernon davis situation last year on this board. People were saying he is the best tight end prospect to ever come out of college and he was hands down going to win rookie of the year while he didn't. Peterson is not reggie bush and not a once in a lifetime talent, some people need to chill on these ridiculus comments. He may turn out to be a great nfl back but it seems like some of you are saying he will redefine the running back position come on, right now everybody in the draft is equal in one thing they have not proven anything on a nfl field against nfl pros. Just becuse you were a stud in college doesn't mean you will be one in the nfl

[sharkman]

Commish steps up to the podium.....

..."With the second pick of the 2001 NFL draft, the Cardinals select....Leonard Davis, offensive lineman from the University of Texas"...

...fans applaud loudly because the team needs help on the offensive line...

...three picks later...

..."the San Diego Chargers select Ladainian Thomlinson, running back from Texas Christian University"......boos heard from unhappy fans who felt the biggest need was a defensive lineman like Richard Seymour.

Need or not....who would you rather have....Big....or LT?

Case closed.

If AP is there you take him. You can release Edge next year with minimal roster bonus hit because his contract was front loaded....and use his cap space for a FA offensive lineman next year (you don't build a championship team in one year....we may still have offensive line needs this time next year....but you don't draft on the basis of need unless you want another Wendell Bryant).

[finally]

Thomas is top 3 not based on need, but skill.

You can be the best judge of talent in the world but when all you have to judge are backups, your decision will be a bad one.

Does anyone remember that our starting RT on opening day was a back up guard that was cut by minn. like 3 days prior!!!!!! That is a problem and shows just how bad the revolving door known as Ross and Gorin actually are.

Sure we can give wakefield props for doing a decent job as a DL transfer, but when compared to o linemen around the league he was terrible.

I can only pray that wizzzzzzz and Grimm can bring in some talent.

[NightHawk11and81]

John Thomas is that you? You must be Joe Thomas' brother or something as you appear to be related to him. I mean why else do you have so much concern for Joe Thomas being selected high in the draft because if he is selected BPA he falls to about #10 and even that is questionable. If you draft him on need that he is gone at #2 or #3 to Detroit or Cleveland.

Remember what happened the year before when we had Everett "Clueless" Lindsay coaching the offensive line? Failed experiment. Remember last year when the offensive line was shuffled around and the same 5 OL didn't start a game together until about week 11 or so? You know musical offensive linemen. This is the NEW Cardinals under the Whisenhunt/Grimm regime and I guarantee you that we WILL know who are starting offensive line is by the first preseason game. NO more musical offensive linemen.

Remember last year when Dennis Green picked up Brandon Gorin from the New England Patriots for this year's 6th round draft pick in which Brandon didn't play a game last year and was inactive for the most part? Remember when Brandon Gorin STARTED for New England when they won the Super Bowl three years ago? Remember when Oliver Ross was labeled a pretty good run protecting offensive tackle for the perennial playoff contender Pittsburgh Steelers and was protecting a very slow Tommy Maddox as their QB? Remember when he started ALL 16 games for the Pittsburgh Steelers in 2004 in which Pittsburgh went 15-1? Say it isn't so? I mean it couldn't have anything to do with musical coaches, offensive line sets, and poor coaching? or could it?

Drach, why do you think Thomas will be such a bust? I mean, I know you don't prefer him but to say he'll fall out of the top 10 as BPA is laughable when everyone else I've heard an opinion from has him at #5 or better.

[crdnl85]

Peterson is not even in the nfl yet, this is just like the vernon davis situation last year on this board. People were saying he is the best tight end prospect to ever come out of college and he was hands down going to win rookie of the year while he didn't. Peterson is not reggie bush and not a once in a lifetime talent, some people need to chill on these ridiculus comments. He may turn out to be a great nfl back but it seems like some of you are saying he will redefine the running back position come on, right now everybody in the draft is equal in one thing they have not proven anything on a nfl field against nfl pros. Just becuse you were a stud in college doesn't mean you will be one in the nflI agree with you.He may turn out to be a great player,but not here unless we get the o-line fixed.Edge still has a few good years left to play,and so does Shipp,and JJ.That is if the o-line gets fixed.LT is our greatest need,in my opinion the best player who can fill that need will be the BPA.Go-:Cards logo: :Cards logo: :Cards logo:

[cardinal eric]

:Cards logo: Joe Thomas,Joe Thomas,Joe Thomas:Cards logo:

[JayGee]

Commish steps up to the podium.....

..."With the second pick of the 2001 NFL draft, the Cardinals select....Leonard Davis, offensive lineman from the University of Texas"...

...fans applaud loudly because the team needs help on the offensive line...

...three picks later...

..."the San Diego Chargers select Ladainian Thomlinson, running back from Texas Christian University"......boos heard from unhappy fans who felt the biggest need was a defensive lineman like Richard Seymour.

Need or not....who would you rather have....Big....or LT?

Case closed.

If AP is there you take him. You can release Edge next year with minimal roster bonus hit because his contract was front loaded....and use his cap space for a FA offensive lineman next year (you don't build a championship team in one year....we may still have offensive line needs this time next year....but you don't draft on the basis of need unless you want another Wendell Bryant).

wow! that was powerful assessment....

[Dr.Jack]

I agree that it would be foolish to draft AP.The way I see it is that Whis wants a BUS and AP is a Corvette. I look for us to draft a RB,probably on Day 2 but it will be a LOAD and not Scat Back.

[BillsFan618]

Who was san dieago's running back when they drafted lt?

[BulldogsCards]

I agree that it would be foolish to draft AP.The way I see it is that Whis wants a BUS and AP is a Corvette. I look for us to draft a RB,probably on Day 2 but it will be a LOAD and not Scat Back.

We already have a day 2 big rb in Marcel Shipp who actually was undrafted. Whiz wants a home run hitter and IMO he will get one in the draft. It will be interesting to see what round he gets his fast willy. Will it be AP in the 1st, Henry in the 5th, or?

[cardinal eric]

Who was san dieago's running back when they drafted lt?

Ronnie Harmon??????Natrone Means????????????

[HAVACARDSFAN]

We already have a day 2 big rb in Marcel Shipp who actually was undrafted. Whiz wants a home run hitter and IMO he will get one in the draft. It will be interesting to see what round he gets his fast willy. Will it be AP in the 1st, Henry in the 5th, or?

What about Michael Bush...more like the "Bus"...:biggrin:

[BulldogsCards]

What about Michael Bush...more like the "Bus"...:biggrin:

That pick has some high upside, plus he's fast too, right?

[cardinal eric]

I don't see us taking a RB on day 1...and I think Bush will go in the 2nd or 3rd.How about Dewayne Wright from Fresno State....250lbs....or Penn St.'s Tony Hunt.I'd LOVE to get Bush but I don't see it.Hope I'm wrong.

[BillsFan618]

Sharkman San Diego also needed a runnink back that's why they drafted lt. They did not have a number one guy like the cards do they had a bunch of backups

[Dr.Jack]

I don't consider Shipp a LOAD. To me a LOAD has to weigh at least 250 and this is why JJ and Femi might not fit in Whis's O-scheme.

[BulldogsCards]

I don't consider Shipp a LOAD. To me a LOAD has to weigh at least 250 and this is why JJ and Femi might not fit in Whis's O-scheme.

I know Tony Hunt - 230
DeShawn Wynn - 232
Chris Henry - 230

Have been mentioned in some mock drafts I've looked at, but as far as a huge bruiser, Bush - 243 is the closest thing to that as a high round pick. Good point about the big back. He also had a home run threat and JJ Arrington is that guy but he has to pan out and I don't know about him. Who's going to be the odd man out, because someone has to go. It will be interesting to see what happens there.

[NightHawk11and81]

Sharkman San Diego also needed a runnink back that's why they drafted lt. They did not have a number one guy like the cards do they had a bunch of backups

Good point, I had forgotten that was a need for San Diego.

[cardinal eric]

I don't see us taking a RB on day 1...and I think Bush will go in the 2nd or 3rd.How about Dewayne Wright from Fresno State....250lbs....or Penn St.'s Tony Hunt.I'd LOVE to get Bush but I don't see it.Hope I'm wrong.

sorry guys....way off on Wrights weight...closer to 230.My mistake.Still like him though.

[arizona_cards_11]

Seriously we have much more important needs than taking a back-up RB. Yes he was talent blah blah blah.

Running backs have relatively short careers in the NFL and if we had say Walter Jones on our left side or say Champ Bailey at CB or Julius Pepper at DE then yes we could use a luxury like AP.

We need to draft end this order from biggest need

1) Joe Thomas or Levi Brown
2) Gaines Adams or Jamal Anderson
3) Laron Landry, Chris Houston, Darelle Reives (yes I know Landry is a Safety and we now have Hood)
4) Patrick Willis

Unfortunately only a couple of those names are even worth the 5th overall.

If Thomas is gone please trade down and get better value.

I do like Willis and was surprised that he is as fast as he is 4.37 40 WOW a 240 lber faster than AP.

You think inside the box.....you're not innovative....creative...ground-breaking...you're just....you.

To assume that the theory "need" is better than BPA is asinine......the draft is a crapshoot.....so you pick whatever player has the best chance of success in the NFL.

[ZOna_Style]

Dude...IF Peterson is available when the Cardinals are picking...

He will be holding up a Cardinals jersey at the podium.:peace:

[arizona_cards_11]

Dude...IF Peterson is available when the Cardinals are picking...

He will be holding up a Cardinals jersey at the podium.:peace:

I agree.....there is no question.

[Northern Soul]

I agree.....there is no question.
Lets pray then that the weight of the jersey doesnt throw his shoulder out:whistle:

[arizona_cards_11]

Lets pray then that the weight of the jersey doesnt throw his shoulder out:whistle:

At least he would make it up on stage.......Thomas' knee will give out walking up the stairs.:whistle:

[crdnl85]

Dude...IF Peterson is available when the Cardinals are picking...

He will be holding up a Cardinals jersey at the podium.:peace:Then i hope with all my heart,he is long gone by then.I don't care how good he is we don't need him.If i don't see the best LT we can get with the #5 pick i will be very disappointed.

:peace:

[CardsFan1399]

Personally, I think Peterson will be a great NFL back. If the Cards select him, I'll get excited about the Edge/AP combo and hope for results similar to last year's Bush/McAllister combo for the Saints.

That being said, I truly hope that the Cards select either Thomas in the 1st or have the opportunity to select Staley/Ugoh in the second. Aside from a left tackle in Round 1 or 2, I hope the Cards go Defense with every other selection. Once a LT is in place, the offense will have plenty of weapons. The D needs a starter at WLB, a rotational pass rusher for DE, and depth everywhere else. A CB that could push for starting time with Rolle and Hood would be nice.

Is it just me or have most of the threads focused so much on OL and other Offensive additions (RB/Blocking TE/etc.) that the Defense hasn't been discussed much?

[desertcoyote62]

Since you AP relatives keep starting new threads about BPA and drafting AP, I am going to continue saying it is stupid to draft any more RB or WR or QB until we have a good left tackle. Using the first round pick on anyone other than Joe Thomas or Levi Brown is just plain foolish.

Remember what happened to Edge last year when he tried to run behind our line early in the year? If you think AP would have done any better your'e nuts. Now we have no capable left tackle at all--NONE. Ross and Gorin are only backups. If we draft AP he and Edge will not be able to run to the left side and Matt will be looking at rushing DE all day or the sky from his butt.

IMHO drafting Levi Brown at #5 would be foolish, Id rather have Staley than Brown even at 5. Also Gorin was good enough to start in the superbowl so I dont see how he could only be a backup.

[Cardsfan50]

IMHO drafting Levi Brown at #5 would be foolish, Id rather have Staley than Brown even at 5. Also Gorin was good enough to start in the superbowl so I dont see how he could only be a backup.

Brown would be a slight reach, but Staley would be a big reach there. And Gorin started several years ago at RIGHT tackle. Belichick must not have thought much of him to let us have him for a 6th round pick. If he can be a good starter at left tackle for us then terrific, no one will be happier than me, but I am not aware of any reason to believe that is any more than a pipe dream. Or spin from a Peterson family member or agent.

[desertcoyote62]

Brown would be a slight reach, but Staley would be a big reach there. And Gorin started several years ago at RIGHT tackle. Belichick must not have thought much of him to let us have him for a 6th round pick. If he can be a good starter at left tackle for us then terrific, no one will be happier than me, but I am not aware of any reason to believe that is any more than a pipe dream. Or spin from a Peterson family member or agent.

Im just not a Levi Brown fan plain and simple if they take him i'll respect there decision but I dont see it happening.

[NightHawk11and81]

Personally, I think Peterson will be a great NFL back. If the Cards select him, I'll get excited about the Edge/AP combo and hope for results similar to last year's Bush/McAllister combo for the Saints.

That being said, I truly hope that the Cards select either Thomas in the 1st or have the opportunity to select Staley/Ugoh in the second. Aside from a left tackle in Round 1 or 2, I hope the Cards go Defense with every other selection. Once a LT is in place, the offense will have plenty of weapons. The D needs a starter at WLB, a rotational pass rusher for DE, and depth everywhere else. A CB that could push for starting time with Rolle and Hood would be nice.

Is it just me or have most of the threads focused so much on OL and other Offensive additions (RB/Blocking TE/etc.) that the Defense hasn't been discussed much?

Defense is what I want us to focus on in the first round if Thomas is gone and in the second if he is not.

[arizona_cards_11]

Defense is what I want us to focus on in the first round if Thomas is gone and in the second if he is not.

I can agree on that......While I'm still going to be on the AP/CJ BPA bandwagon......if both are gone.....I'm looking at Anderson, Adams, Willis. These guys are really standing out....and it would be awesome if we could even trade down to get 1of3.