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lileyho240
08-31-2007, 05:05 PM
Cuts are made
The Cards have made their cuts, including third-round pick Buster Davis. Nothing else jaw-dropping, unless you consider the decision to keep five wideouts and let both Micheal Spurlock and LeRon McCoy go.



Here is the list. A full story will be posted in a few minutes:



The Arizona Cardinals Football Club today announced that the team has released the following 21 players: cornerback MICHAEL ADAMS, running back STEVE BAYLARK, quarterback SHANE BOYD, quarterback LANG CAMPBELL, linebacker BUSTER DAVIS, tackle BRANDON GORIN, linebacker DAVID HOLLOWAY, cornerback DARRELL HUNTER, guard BRIAN JOHNSON, safety BRANDON KEELER, defensive tackle JONATHAN LEWIS, wide receiver LERON MCCOY, tackle QASIM MITCHELL, center SCOTT PETERS, tight end ALEX SHOR, wide receiver MICHEAL SPURLOCK, middle linebacker PAGO TOGAFAU, wide receiver MATT TRANNON, tackle ELLIOT VALLEJO, fullback ROSHON VERCHER, and cornerback JUSTIN WYATT.

Vegas Cards Fan
08-31-2007, 05:11 PM
Sweet, I love wasting a third round pick!

Crazy-Canuck
08-31-2007, 05:15 PM
Sweet, I love wasting a third round pick!


They didn't waste the pick. Buster muffed his opportunity.

lileyho240
08-31-2007, 05:16 PM
Sweet, I love wasting a third round pick!

its too bad Buster was cut..but its better than cutting him now instead of having his salary hold this team back from getting FA's

i would of liked it if they kept Pago,Hunter,Johnson,Keeler,Lewis make the team..but oh well..Whise said he'll put the best players on the field and i believe him:cardinals: :cardinals:

sporadiclee
08-31-2007, 05:30 PM
As much as I tried to make it all right, the Buster cut is disturbing. Mostly because he clearly wasn't going to play on the outside in a 3-4 or beat out Hayes or Dansby. I liked the highlights I watched, but I never understood how he fit. I guess he didn't.

More importantly, though, is anyone else shocked about the even thinner depth at offensive tackle now? I believe Brad Badger is the only one left.

Belac44
08-31-2007, 05:31 PM
They didn't waste the pick. Buster muffed his opportunity.

When your 3rd round pick doesnt make the team, its the waste of a pick.

Unreal, guarantee there are many guys in the 3rd and 4th round that could have helped us there.

D.Payne #29
08-31-2007, 05:32 PM
hey azbmxcan, I thought Buster was the real deal? Guess you were wrong. Try watching the game next time.

Belac44
08-31-2007, 05:34 PM
As much as I tried to make it all right, the Buster cut is disturbing. Mostly because he clearly wasn't going to play on the outside in a 3-4 or beat out Hayes or Dansby. I liked the highlights I watched, but I never understood how he fit. I guess he didn't.

More importantly, though, is anyone else shocked about the even thinner depth at offensive tackle now? I believe Brad Badger is the only one left.

Plus, we also saw Beisel was legit in the game he stepped in for Hayes last year. Dumb...

3rd round picks are big deals and to be a successful franchise, you cant bomb on those.

ARZCardinals
08-31-2007, 05:53 PM
Many mags had Buster listed in their top 3 LB's. I don't know what was missing, but he'll find it and get himself back into the league. My guess is he didn't study the plays and thought he could live off his experience from college.

I kind of expected to see Rolle on the list too...wouldn't have been shocked.

ItsInTheCards
08-31-2007, 06:09 PM
Many mags had Buster listed in their top 3 LB's. I don't know what was missing, but he'll find it and get himself back into the league. My guess is he didn't study the plays and thought he could live off his experience from college.

I kind of expected to see Rolle on the list too...wouldn't have been shocked.


rolle will be next year....they can't take the cap hit right now

Buster will go to a cover 2 team

azbmxican
08-31-2007, 06:23 PM
hey azbmxcan, I thought Buster was the real deal? Guess you were wrong. Try watching the game next time.

whats your point? I'm not gonna lost faith in the guy. I still think he's gonna become something. Maybe not with the cards any longer.


How about everyone else's delight Pago??? Everyone started riding his jock on how he out showed Buster yet, he was cut aswell.

thesmel
08-31-2007, 06:45 PM
Cuts are made
The Cards have made their cuts, including third-round pick Buster Davis. Nothing else jaw-dropping, unless you consider the decision to keep five wideouts and let both Micheal Spurlock and LeRon McCoy go.



Here is the list. A full story will be posted in a few minutes:



The Arizona Cardinals Football Club today announced that the team has released the following 21 players: cornerback MICHAEL ADAMS, running back STEVE BAYLARK, quarterback SHANE BOYD, quarterback LANG CAMPBELL, linebacker BUSTER DAVIS, tackle BRANDON GORIN, linebacker DAVID HOLLOWAY, cornerback DARRELL HUNTER, guard BRIAN JOHNSON, safety BRANDON KEELER, defensive tackle JONATHAN LEWIS, wide receiver LERON MCCOY, tackle QASIM MITCHELL, center SCOTT PETERS, tight end ALEX SHOR, wide receiver MICHEAL SPURLOCK, middle linebacker PAGO TOGAFAU, wide receiver MATT TRANNON, tackle ELLIOT VALLEJO, fullback ROSHON VERCHER, and cornerback JUSTIN WYATT.

the web changes don't mix with my computer at work can somebody post the story? NFL .com shuts down all my programs and Cards sight don't show the home page pics or new news.

Egomaniac247
08-31-2007, 06:49 PM
I'm surprised at dropping a 3rd round pick and not atleast giving him another year to develop...but I'm not upset. I am sure someone else will pick him up and give him a shot since he was drafted so high.

I was also a LITTLE surprised at Baylark being released, even though I know we have 3 RB's ahead of him....but he seemed to perform okay.

And lastly, who was the WR that was playing so well against the Chargers thenhurt his ankle? Did he make the team?

AzCardsGM
08-31-2007, 06:49 PM
Sweet, I love wasting a third round pick!

Guys.. It does happen, albeit it's been 7 years, but we did cut a 3rd rounder before:

2000 (Drafted 7-10-9-8)
Rd. Sel.# Name Pos. School
1. 7 Thomas Jones RB Virginia
2. 41 Ray Thompson LB Tennessee
3. 71 Darwin Walker DT Tennessee
4. 102 David Barrett CB Arkansas
5a. 136 Mao Tosi DL Idaho
5b. 164 Jay Tant TE Northwestern
6. 176 Jabari Issa DL Washington
7. 215 Sékou Sanyika OLB California

AussieCardinal
08-31-2007, 06:55 PM
Buster being cut really questions the drafting ability of the team.

ItsInTheCards
08-31-2007, 06:57 PM
Buster being cut really questions the drafting ability of Rod Graves.


:wink:

AussieCardinal
08-31-2007, 07:01 PM
:wink:

I stand corrected:wink:

finally
08-31-2007, 07:12 PM
It is not like we just wasted an entire draft. Levi and Branch will be studs.

Jacksonville just showed that they wasted a top 10 pick back in 03'.

Sometimes picks don't work out

Belac44
08-31-2007, 07:15 PM
Guys.. It does happen, albeit it's been 7 years, but we did cut a 3rd rounder before:

2000 (Drafted 7-10-9-8)
Rd. Sel.# Name Pos. School
1. 7 Thomas Jones RB Virginia
2. 41 Ray Thompson LB Tennessee
3. 71 Darwin Walker DT Tennessee
4. 102 David Barrett CB Arkansas
5a. 136 Mao Tosi DL Idaho
5b. 164 Jay Tant TE Northwestern
6. 176 Jabari Issa DL Washington
7. 215 Sékou Sanyika OLB California

Actually, cutting Walker was a big mistake. He had a solid career.

BuckyBird
08-31-2007, 07:19 PM
How do you go into the season with tw tackles? And they are your starters?

Carddan
08-31-2007, 07:34 PM
It is not like we just wasted an entire draft. Levi and Branch will be studs.


So much of the game is determined at the line of scrimmage. Levi Brown and Alan Branch have the potential to dominate there and make this years draft look good for years. Breaston could add something to the return game, no one knows for sure no matter what they say now. The free agents Hood/Holt/Al Johnson improve the team at least with depth.
Last year we added Leinart, Lutui, Pope, Watson, and Brandon Johnson. This team is improving, sometimes it only takes a little bit to tip the scales.

thesmel
08-31-2007, 07:53 PM
Buster being cut really questions the drafting ability of the team.

We'll see if he ends up on the practice squad resigned by what he earned. Still say his advantage is his mind reading and calling plays on defense which takes years to develope at MLB in the NFL. Must not have gained D's respect as a leader.

What they lack in Drafting ability was made up in humble correct decisions. Now we'll really see the quality of our scouting staff and whose graded an upgrade from other teams cut's. It's hard to upgrade our 53 with out adding alot of age and losing upside.

2 qb's but Boyd is easy to upgrade.

my biggest surprise is how many quality players we didn't cut. I mean our cut recievers can upgrade depth on other teams but I thought we would lose more talent then we did. i thought Mitchell was stsying.

BullheadCardFan
08-31-2007, 08:19 PM
How do you go into the season with two tackles? And they are your starters?
I am wondering the same thing you are .. Whiz and staff must have their eyes on other players that are to be released .. theres no way we go into the season with no depth at OT ...

LongTimeFan
08-31-2007, 08:26 PM
Well, there are always surprises: the two things that surprised me most were that we kept 4 TEs and that we released the back-up OTs. I was also surprised that both Pago and Buster were cut. I thought that Pago would beat out Buster, but even though he played well, he must not have been an option for ST and so both of them became expendable.

I'll be interested to see who we pick-up from the other team cuts.

LongTimeFan
08-31-2007, 08:44 PM
Buster being cut really questions the drafting ability of the team.

Even Whiz said that he had conversations with Buster because his play in preseason and camp was not same as what they saw on film. So, either he wasn't dedicated or he lacked the athletic ability to play LB in the NFL or he just wasn't smart enough to learn what he needed to know.

My guess is though that the scout who touted him has lost some credibility.

BullheadCardFan
08-31-2007, 09:23 PM
And you know what? I really like this. This is what I'm hearing by this...

"Look, if you suck, you're gonna get cut. I don't care if we don't have anyone better. We'll find someone. But sucking is completely unacceptable."

They are pouring over names of OT's right now. Secretaries are working late finding NFL films for coaches. They are crash grading. They'll claim at least one tackle, and maybe two. And Euhus and scrub-tackle (forgot his name) should not buy a house, because when those claims are made, they're gone.
Was Qasim Mitchell really that bad ... ???

finally
08-31-2007, 09:31 PM
Don't forget that Wells can play tackle if he has to.

CanadianCardinal
08-31-2007, 10:00 PM
Hi Fans,

Does anyone know why they had to cut Boyd? I thought he looked pretty good overall throughout the exhibition season.

Why are they keeping so many Tight ends?

I agree they should have kept some OT's around a little longer but maybe they are waiting to pick some players up on the wire. Who can they bring in here?

Cheers,

Cuts are made
The Cards have made their cuts, including third-round pick Buster Davis. Nothing else jaw-dropping, unless you consider the decision to keep five wideouts and let both Micheal Spurlock and LeRon McCoy go.



Here is the list. A full story will be posted in a few minutes:



The Arizona Cardinals Football Club today announced that the team has released the following 21 players: cornerback MICHAEL ADAMS, running back STEVE BAYLARK, quarterback SHANE BOYD, quarterback LANG CAMPBELL, linebacker BUSTER DAVIS, tackle BRANDON GORIN, linebacker DAVID HOLLOWAY, cornerback DARRELL HUNTER, guard BRIAN JOHNSON, safety BRANDON KEELER, defensive tackle JONATHAN LEWIS, wide receiver LERON MCCOY, tackle QASIM MITCHELL, center SCOTT PETERS, tight end ALEX SHOR, wide receiver MICHEAL SPURLOCK, middle linebacker PAGO TOGAFAU, wide receiver MATT TRANNON, tackle ELLIOT VALLEJO, fullback ROSHON VERCHER, and cornerback JUSTIN WYATT.

NightHawk11and81
08-31-2007, 10:11 PM
It is not like we just wasted an entire draft. Levi and Branch will be studs.

Jacksonville just showed that they wasted a top 10 pick back in 03'.

Sometimes picks don't work out

Jacksonville just showed that like the Falcons and Texans before them, they're idiots who wasted a top pick because of their own stupidity. Leftwich will go play somewhere else and show the Jaguars that they made a huge mistake. If he doesn't mind possibly having to back up Steve McNair for a year, he could really upgrade the Ravens' offense.

RogueCardinal
08-31-2007, 10:27 PM
I am bummed that Buster was cut, really I thought that he struggled in the pre-season, but I would have thought that his production at the college level would have bought him some time. If the team simply cut him because they found out he was too small and couldn't stand up to the rigors of the NFL than that is on the Cardinals organization plain and simple. Don't draft the guy if he is undersized and you are not going to give him time to develop. I hope that he is signed to the practice squad, but if he isn't I am sure that this will just be the first chapter in a great career for him. Maybe it will motivate him in his next stop, really I think the Cards gave up on him too soon.

Can't say that I am all that happy with a couple of the cuts. Really I hope that we re-sign Trannon because if not we gave up a legitimiate #3/4 WR in place of a supposed special teams ace in Morey that has done little to show that he deserves to make this team. If this was Denny Green keeping Morey everyone would be clamoring about how he favors guys from his good ole' boy club. Morey better show that he can make a catch in traffic and make a tackle on special teams in the regular season, because he hasn't done it in the pre-season. Keeping Euhus is pointless, I imagine he is gone as soon as next Tuesday.

DesertDave
08-31-2007, 10:31 PM
Hi Fans,

Does anyone know why they had to cut Boyd?

this is why:
27 completions on 53 attempts for a 5 yard/attempt average with 2 picks and 2 tds


I thought he looked pretty good overall throughout the exhibition season.

You're the only one.


Why are they keeping so many Tight ends?

to rotate them in and out of TE and FB positions.

Looks like we're 2 for 2 with blowing draft picks on guys named Davis.

Darn shame about Pago, I figured he'd at least locked himself up a special teams position.

sporadiclee
09-01-2007, 01:21 AM
I am bummed that Buster was cut, really I thought that he struggled in the pre-season, but I would have thought that his production at the college level would have bought him some time. If the team simply cut him because they found out he was too small and couldn't stand up to the rigors of the NFL than that is on the Cardinals organization plain and simple. Don't draft the guy if he is undersized and you are not going to give him time to develop. I hope that he is signed to the practice squad, but if he isn't I am sure that this will just be the first chapter in a great career for him. Maybe it will motivate him in his next stop, really I think the Cards gave up on him too soon.

I would have agreed with you an hour ago, but after rewatching Buster's play in the first three games, I'm actually dumbfounded by how bad he really was. I guess it's not impossible that he develops in time, but he turned into a comedy of errors by the end, albeit, a really dark comedy.

The most perplexing and indicative play came with 12:52 left in the SD game. He interferes with a receiver, then chases the wrong guy AFTER the ball is thrown to the receiver he just interfered with. I've never seen anything like it. If instincts and smarts are supposed to be his greatest attributes, at least based on this admittedly small sample of three preseason games, he's going to struggle. Not to mention that he seems to be afraid of contact, which is strange for someone known for sacrificing their body. I'm not defending the FO, but he does look like a completely different player than in his college highlights.

EuroCard
09-01-2007, 02:08 AM
I would have agreed with you an hour ago, but after rewatching Buster's play in the first three games, I'm actually dumbfounded by how bad he really was. I guess it's not impossible that he develops in time, but he turned into a comedy of errors by the end, albeit, a really dark comedy.

I'm not defending the FO, but he does look like a completely different player than in his college highlights.

You hit the nail on the head, the FO did draft the wrong player, somehow Butter Davis got mixed up with Buster Davis, we had the former on the team and he had a melt down in the heat. Sad, but he had to go as the residue was starting to smell.

Vegas Cards Fan
09-01-2007, 02:27 AM
And lastly, who was the WR that was playing so well against the Chargers thenhurt his ankle? Did he make the team?


Ahmad Merritt, and the dude was placed on IR

finally
09-01-2007, 09:40 AM
Jacksonville just showed that like the Falcons and Texans before them, they're idiots who wasted a top pick because of their own stupidity. Leftwich will go play somewhere else and show the Jaguars that they made a huge mistake. If he doesn't mind possibly having to back up Steve McNair for a year, he could really upgrade the Ravens' offense.

That could happen, I don't know. But he has been given every chance to be great and he hasn't taken that next step yet. It isn't the talent around him.

saldawyz
09-01-2007, 10:00 AM
Jacksonville just showed that like the Falcons and Texans before them, they're idiots who wasted a top pick because of their own stupidity. Leftwich will go play somewhere else and show the Jaguars that they made a huge mistake. If he doesn't mind possibly having to back up Steve McNair for a year, he could really upgrade the Ravens' offense.

or Chicago's...



(if they're smart, that is)

thesmel
09-01-2007, 10:11 AM
I didn't think so. I actually thought he played pretty good.

But I didn't spend every day with the guy for a month like the coaches did. And with cutting him despite having no tackles, I can only assume that the coaching staff thought he was. lol.

Who knows, maybe he pissed in Whiz's cornflakes, or they have an inside scoop on waiver targets.

I'm really still scratching my head on Mitchell. He looked solid. You keep Euhus, a fourth TE in a group of TE's that haven't impressed, and you cut Mitchell, a solid performer in games, and leave yourself with zero legitimate backups. Huh?

Just my intuition on the Cuts now. Graves and Whiz agree who not to spend resources on. For example Boyd got a lot of playing time in preseason and they evaluated that they could get somebody better to spend their efforts on. Our 1st and 2nd stringers are good so if Buster or Boyd are evaluated as never going to make it or not worth the price to bring them up to sppeed. Mitchell is as good as he gets and evaluated as not going to get any better. Graves job is to find a player cut from another team as good as Mitchell now that can develope into a better player at the back end of our roster.

Crazy-Canuck
09-01-2007, 11:38 AM
I didn't think so. I actually thought he played pretty good.

But I didn't spend every day with the guy for a month like the coaches did. And with cutting him despite having no tackles, I can only assume that the coaching staff thought he was. lol.

Who knows, maybe he pissed in Whiz's cornflakes, or they have an inside scoop on waiver targets.

I'm really still scratching my head on Mitchell. He looked solid. You keep Euhus, a fourth TE in a group of TE's that haven't impressed, and you cut Mitchell, a solid performer in games, and leave yourself with zero legitimate backups. Huh?


I tend to think, that what we have now is the team for game one, with the possible replacement of Euhus by a better blocking TE.

The additional depth at tackle will probably come with a signing following game one, when the Cards no longer have to guarantee the salary for the complete season.

PAC10Fan
09-01-2007, 07:13 PM
Several people have posted on too many tight ends, but I thought the story was fairly direct in why that was. The comment about Patrick as a WR was made, I suspect, because he didn't show much blocking ability despite decent hands. Also, his primary knock has been health at times - so at WR he won't get knocked around as much. Just a thought. Euhus will stay unless someone the coaches have experience with opens up I suspect. Csieslak is a possibility, but I don't think he was playing much when Coach Miller was in Buffalo. . . I doubt he gets picked up by Arizona. BTW, several folks have commented on Euhus being the fourth TE. Every depth chart I've seen has shown him 3rd, always ahead of Patrick. Have I missed something?

Nate + cards 4 life
09-01-2007, 07:19 PM
the web changes don't mix with my computer at work can somebody post the story? NFL .com shuts down all my programs and Cards sight don't show the home page pics or new news.At work, try the news link, then go to features, that will show the stories, my comp. at work does the same thing.

cardfan4ca
09-01-2007, 08:54 PM
Was Qasim Mitchell really that bad ... ???


Camp rumor had it that Mitchell was very good, but was lazy and didn't finish his blocks. Perhaps he was looked at as unmotivated.
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