whiz true to his word

[How da ya like me NOW!]

I like Whiz a lot more after today. he made the tough calls irrespective to perceptions of others. Most would say not to cut Buster because he was the third pick, but if he is not one of the top 53, he sould be cut...PERIOD! The draft is a crapshoot and if you get 2-3 serviceable players per year you are doing awesome. Please don't tell me how great the draft's used to be. Antrel Rolle and Calvin Pace?? Nuff said!!

Long live the Whiz

[ItsInTheCards]

I like Whiz a lot more after today. he made the tough calls irrespective to perceptions of others. Most would say not to cut Buster because he was the third pick, but if he is not one of the top 53, he sould be cut...PERIOD! The draft is a crapshoot and if you get 2-3 serviceable players per year you are doing awesome. Please don't tell me how great the draft's used to be. Antrel Rolle and Calvin Pace?? Nuff said!!

Long live the Whiz

and I have no doubt that if they had a true answer at OLB, Pace would be axed as well

I also think if they had more cap space, Rolle would've been shown the door too

[JayGee]

im not impressed we wasted a THIRD ROUND pick. Great job, Rod Graves!!!!!!
:sarcasm:

[pg13]

Hey I heard that Wiz said since Warner had such better numbers than Matt during preseason that he'd be starting against SF. Best player wins! Yay, Go Wiz!:eyes:

[DesertDave]

The draft is a crapshoot and if you get 2-3 serviceable players per year you are doing awesome.


You couldn't be further off base with that.

The fact that there are a number of teams who consistently find solid to superior talent with their middle round picks should indicate that there is no crap shooting involved.

If you're scouts and staff are doing their jobs well, your team doesn't blow its draft picks.

[JayGee]

You couldn't be further off base with that.

The fact that there are a number of teams who consistently find solid to superior talent with their middle round picks should indicate that there is no crap shooting involved.

If you're scouts and staff are doing their jobs well, your team doesn't blow its draft picks.

on top of that, we were so savvy trading draft picks, that we only ended up with 5 picks instead of 7. having cut our 3rd, that's now 4 guys to build our future on. graves was right; he was the draft genius the previous 3 seasons in acquiring leinart, fitz, dansby, lutui, etc. and this season was his best draft ever. way to go, graves!!

[JayGee]

If we have a bad draft pick, its Graves fault. If we have a good draft pick, Whiz is a genius.

And because thats so insanely stupid, Graves or Whiz could care less what you think.

Buster looked good on film. But for whatever reason, he couldn't bring the same game. And he would be expected to improve over college, and he was not even the same player.

After the Broncos, I spent too long going through the tapes watching him.

You know what? I think he wanted to get cut. I don't think he wanted to play here. I think he took his 610k signing bonus, and wants to go build his cars now, and play arena ball for fun.

The dude wasn't even trying to play. Weird.

Anywaaaaaaaaaay... to respond to the topic.....

Cutting Buster didn't prove that Whiz is keeping his word. Cutting Buster was a complete no brainer. He wasn't even on the bubble. He coudn't buy a reason to keep him.

buster was a bad pick to begin with. a reach!! just like picking levi brown over adrian peterson. levi looks like he's going to work out, but adrian peterson has the makings of a HOF-caliber bonafide star.

[JayGee]

Does not compute. Need sleep? You made no sense here.

guess you didnt detect the :sarcasm:

[JayGee]

Okay, three strikes and your out. And you struck out big.

You want to pay Edge 15 mil, Peterson 10 mil, and without Levi Brown, your quarterbacks blindside is protected by.... ???

Go to bed.

his blindside is protected by a FA or a 2nd round pick. we found lutui in the 2nd round and he turned out to be a stud. but nope, we made a 10-15 ranked player the 5th overall pick and had trouble getting him into camp. i think reaching out of "need" is bad decision-making, but it's all good....

[ARZCardinals]

I like Whiz a lot more after today. he made the tough calls irrespective to perceptions of others. Most would say not to cut Buster because he was the third pick, but if he is not one of the top 53, he sould be cut...PERIOD! The draft is a crapshoot and if you get 2-3 serviceable players per year you are doing awesome. Please don't tell me how great the draft's used to be. Antrel Rolle and Calvin Pace?? Nuff said!!

Long live the Whiz

People - let me start

1st off - you took Dennis Green's draft for granted. He got solid player afer solid player year after year. Sure he lost it. He understood the risk coming in here, but one thing you can not argue about is he left this organization MUCH better than he found it. Graves get's credit too, I'm not so dumb as to say he didn't have a say.

2nd- Almost everyone here who knew a pint about football agreed that Buster was a good pick at the time...or at least NO ONE disagreed with it.

3rd- something happened and he didn't stand out. For whatever reason. I do think he was worth giving one year too. I wouldn't be so ingnorat to think this one could bite us.


Last - I hate the 49ers, seahawks and rams for the next 5 months, :cardinals:

[JayGee]

Which part? You call Graves a genius because of Leinart, Fitz, Q, Lutiu, etc (was that sarcasm too?) and then diss him for this years draft? Did he get stupid in a year? It didn't compute.

And about losing another pick, When Branch drops to the second round, you didn't see the value of trading a 4th rounder to be able to pick up another top 10 player?

I think the draft this year was great. Other than Buster, ever player is drafted is going to contribute. I couldn't disagree with you more.

yes, i was being sarcastic. i personally don't think graves had much to do with any of the drafts from 3 previous years where most of the studs on the current team, with the exception of boldin and a-dubb, came from. but graves was given a raise and new job title and then proceeded to draft like he did back in the "first round calvinpace/bryantjohnson, pass on terrellsuggs" draft from 4 years ago. i was very unimpressed with this year's draft and think levibrown is the only decent pick we made, although branch may work out eventually. and we gave up 2 of our 7 picks in the process and then just cut one of those guys we probably should never picked at 3rd round anyway. i mean i'm still baffled we came out of this draft with not even one CB, a glaring weakness.

[SuperCard]

and I have no doubt that if they had a true answer at OLB, Pace would be axed as well

I also think if they had more cap space, Rolle would've been shown the door too

If we had a REPLACEMENT for Rolle he might be shown the door or traded. But, right now he is still be the best no. 3 corner we have. So he is needed. You don't thrown something out unless you have something better to replace it with.

[NightHawk11and81]

People - let me start

1st off - you took Dennis Green's draft for granted. He got solid player afer solid player year after year. Sure he lost it. He understood the risk coming in here, but one thing you can not argue about is he left this organization MUCH better than he found it. Graves get's credit too, I'm not so dumb as to say he didn't have a say.

2nd- Almost everyone here who knew a pint about football agreed that Buster was a good pick at the time...or at least NO ONE disagreed with it.

3rd- something happened and he didn't stand out. For whatever reason. I do think he was worth giving one year too. I wouldn't be so ingnorat to think this one could bite us.


Last - I hate the 49ers, seahawks and rams for the next 5 months, :cardinals:

Denny's drafts were never that stellar either. Did he ever have a decent player after the third round? How about his second draft, when he drafted Rolle and Arrington? The only solid player from that draft is Eric Green. Like his coaching abilities, his drafting abilities were sorely overrated.

[SuperCard]

Why don't we have any tackles, then?

Are you talking about OT or DT?? If OT Whis said today that he could pull Wells to either tackle if there was a long term injury to either tackle. Elton Brown has looked much better this year and he would be LG if that should happen. Also, look for one or two players cut to go on practice squad. If Oke goes on IR like I think he probable will by Monday we could well pickup a backup off the wire.

If DT we don't have an issue IMO. In the 3-4 we have Watson/Branch at NT. In the 4-3 you have
Watson/Branch/Dockett/Cooper (Mr. just makes plays) in the mix.