Who do we go after in the draft

[Walter Richters]

:redtowel: I have three picks in the areas I hope we need. That will mean that we keep both of our lines intact, Kurt resigns, and Boldin stays.

Malcolm Jenkins - Cornerback
Mark Sanchez - Quarterback (requires opening up some cap money by trading our own "Broadway Joe Namath", Matt Leinart.
Knowshow Marreno - RB which means James is gone. This kid will get it done alongside Arrington and our goal line specilist, Tim Highower.

OK agree or disagree. :cardinals:

[AZCrazy]

Don't think it will work unless we trade someone away for high draft picks. Sanchez and Moreno are gone in the top 10.

[saldawyz]

Disagree w/ CB and QB so early. If they fall to 2nd day, then yeah.
Agree wholeheartedly w/ RB as a solid round 1 pick.
I'll add TE if Pettigrew is available.
Also, another pass rusher would be nice if we can't get solid talent in FA. Rey Maualuga would fit in anywhere in the LB corps. I also like Micheal Johnson from Ga Tech at this position.
One more thing. I also disagree w/ any O-line being taken in the 1st. It's solid already and it would add unnecessary financial strain for the sake of depth/ unproven talent. Hmmm, that would be the reason for me not wanting CB or QB early, too. Round 1 money should be spent on significant holes in the team's personnel. We'll see where the team truly stands after the FA season.

[LD14]

None of the players you listed should be available at our spot.

[LD14]

One more thing. I also disagree w/ any O-line being taken in the 1st.

This Oline is not solid..We need new blood badly and if theres a promising prospect in the 1st we should go for him unless theres a better player available

[PaperChamps]

Best Player Available.

[fromstl2az]

We need a left tackle most of all. If we can nail down a solid left tackle then we should be good on the line. Then in the second pick up a nice RB.


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[fromstl2az]

If we can go in and get Khalif Barnes from the Jaguars then we wouldn't have to take a tackle in the draft. He is a solid player and said just today that he doesn't think he'll be back in Jacksonville



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[PaulSoleil]

:redtowel: I have three picks in the areas I hope we need. That will mean that we keep both of our lines intact, Kurt resigns, and Boldin stays.

Malcolm Jenkins - Cornerback
Mark Sanchez - Quarterback (requires opening up some cap money by trading our own "Broadway Joe Namath", Matt Leinart.
Knowshow Marreno - RB which means James is gone. This kid will get it done alongside Arrington and our goal line specilist, Tim Highower.

OK agree or disagree. :cardinals:


no way on sanchez...he's only coming out because next year there is a plethora of way more talented qbs than him and he won't go till late in the first round. (smart)

and has anyone ever noticed how "re-signs" can look like "resignes"....

[BulldogsCards]

My top choice for the 1st 2 rounds would be Moreno and Max Unger center. If they're gone, take the best defensive players available or maybe 1 o-lineman and 1 defensive DE/LB pass rusher for the edge.

[BOBO_25]

O-line.... if we get a soild O-line then you with see a later round RB pan out for us. otherwise with are line we will need to find a superstar RB witch doesnt come along that often

[FITZBOLDIN1181]

Aaron Maybin, Larry English, Clint Sintim. All 3-4 OLB who will most likely be available when we pick.

If we get another first (for boldin) we should try to get Duke Robinson if available, otherwise i would settle for Moreno or McCoy

[BklynFan]

Disagree w/ CB and QB so early. If they fall to 2nd day, then yeah.
Agree wholeheartedly w/ RB as a solid round 1 pick.
I'll add TE if Pettigrew is available.
Also, another pass rusher would be nice if we can't get solid talent in FA. Rey Maualuga would fit in anywhere in the LB corps. I also like Micheal Johnson from Ga Tech at this position.
One more thing. I also disagree w/ any O-line being taken in the 1st. It's solid already and it would add unnecessary financial strain for the sake of depth/ unproven talent. Hmmm, that would be the reason for me not wanting CB or QB early, too. Round 1 money should be spent on significant holes in the team's personnel. We'll see where the team truly stands after the FA season.

Well said, & the O line IS Solid, though we can use depth or starter UG at Center.

[LD14]

This is our needs IMO as of right now. Assuming that most of the core like Dansby, Warner are still here.

Pass Rusher-need young blood here
Tight End-No need to explain
Runningback-If Edge is gone.
Center-I would prefer replacing Lyle
Corner-Depth to challenge to Brown (if resigned) and even Hood eventually
Safety-Depth to challenge Fransisco
Guard-I want someone to challenge Lutui if Keith isnt already doing that.

As things stand (Combine will change alot of things) and these are prospects who realistically should be at our picks

1st
C-Mack
RB-McCoy
OLB-Maybin (Probably falls under the steal category)
OLB-English

Steals here
RB- Moreno, Wells
OLB-Cushing
TE- Pettigrew

2nd
C-Eric Woods (Wont last another round)
OLB-Sintim

Steals here
RB-Greene
G-Robinson

3rd
Im not getting into this round much. I like the idea of using it on corner Dominique Johnson. This dude is tall, fast, athletic and from a small school. Sounds similar to a certain 1st rounder last year huh? He's not as good as a prospect as DRC, but I think he fits that notion of getting a corner that can challenge Brown and maybe develop well enough to eventually challenge Hood. Im sure after the combine though his stock may rise since other teams may be looking for the next DRC

[Deadly Red Bird]

Unfortunately I am so out of tune with College ball, that I couldn't hazzard a guess.

[sporadiclee]

Aaron Maybin, Larry English, Clint Sintim. All 3-4 OLB who will most likely be available when we pick.

If we get another first (for boldin) we should try to get Duke Robinson if available, otherwise i would settle for Moreno or McCoy

The guys in bold have my vote. I have a good feeling about English.

[getn_jiggy]

BPA -- and I hope it's Moreno. The guy will be the next LT.

[3DaysLater]

The 1st Round guys that I like are:

Larry English, OLB/DE; Northern Illinois; Proj. 1
As a projected elite pass rusher he’ll likely be off the board though, so..

Alex Mack, C; Cal- 6’4”, 312 lbs; Proj. 1-2
As the top rated center there’s a good chance he’s off the board also, so…

LeSean McCoy, RB; Pittsburgh- 5’11”, 210 lbs; Proj. 1
This seems like the guy that most Cards fans want but when I was researching I found this:

“Negatives: Doesn't have great size or the compact strength of elite backs. Must prove he can get the tough yard and not dance to try and break a big play when it's not there. Invites turnovers by running with the ball very loosely. Doesn't always switch the ball to the outside hand. Runs out of control at times. Some of those cutbacks will not work against the speed of NFL defenses. A liability in pass protection, throwing a shoulder instead of moving his feet to take on or even just get in the way of a rusher. Whiffs on his cut blocks against blitzing linebackers.” (see http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1243187 ).

Fumbling and not blocking on pass plays just isn’t going to cut it so…

I would love to see the Cardinals trade down to the middle of the 2nd and try and swing a 4th as well. If that happens this is what I would like to see on draft day.

2nd Round
MID-RANGE
RON BRACE, DT; BOSTON COLL- 6’3”, 329 LBS; Proj. 2
LATE
Herman Johnson, G; LSU- 6’8”, 382 lbs; Proj-2-3

3rd Round
Cody Brown, OLB; U Conn- 6’2”, 242; Proj- 3

4th Round
MID-RANGE
GLEN COFFEE, RB; ALABAMA- 6’1”, 204 LBS; PROJ- 4
LATE
McKenna Pascoe, TE; Fresno St.- 6’5”, 257lbs; Proj- 4-5

5th Round
Lee Robinson, OLB; Alcorn State- 6’2”, 249 lbs; Proj- 6

6th Round
Cecil Newton, C; Tennessee St.- 6’2”, 294 lbs. Proj-6

7th Round
Terrance Knighton, DT; Temple- 6’3”, 324 lbs; Proj. 7th/ FA

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[Cardinal Nation]

:what: Moreno is a RB from UGA.

Pssst! Think why a running back might be associated with the letters L.T.... :shutup:

:)

[FitzOnFire]

I'm all for Alex Mack with pick 30, and maybe sign a lineman in FA, we have a solid line, but let's have a good line. I want to see more holes for Hightower to run up, and I don't want to see Warner or Leinart stepped on when the ball gets snapped. If this will allow us to have a better running game to go with our passing attack, well then call us Superbowl Contenders.

[LD14]

I'm all for Alex Mack with pick 30, and maybe sign a lineman in FA, we have a solid line, but let's have a good line. I want to see more holes for Hightower to run up, and I don't want to see Warner or Leinart stepped on when the ball gets snapped. If this will allow us to have a better running game to go with our passing attack, well then call us Superbowl Contenders.

Too bad we dont have a pick 30 :p

[1BADAZCARDSFAN]

Here are three players that are Diamonds in the rough I think we should pay close attention too in the upcoming draft.


1.Donald Brown RB from Uconn
2.Darius Butler CB from Uconn
3.Cody Brown DE/OLB from Uconn

[getn_jiggy]

<he he he>

L.T. = Lawrence Taylor, NY Giants.

L.T. = Ladanlian Tomlinson, Chargers.

:cardinals:

LOL. Didn't know "LT" would be ambiguous. I meant tomlinson -- not Taylor or Left Tackle. LOL.

I *fear* that Moreno will run a 4.3 40 and will move up to a top 15 pick over Chris Wells who will run a 40 of about 4.45 to 4.5. Chris is bigger but is also an injury liability, which means that he may fall into the late first round. Not sure if McCoy will still be around, but I don't see anything special with him yet. Of course if he blows people out of the water at the combine, he may move up to the mid first round....and we get stuck with Wells.

No matter what, we take BPA in the first round and address depth in second rounds and beyond. The Center Mack from Cal is also intriguing but again, not sure he will be around that late. It's a "luxury" having to pick 31st. Wish we were picking 32nd though.

[btrain]

Here are three players that are Diamonds in the rough I think we should pay close attention too in the upcoming draft.


1.Donald Brown RB from Uconn
2.Darius Butler CB from Uconn
3.Cody Brown DE/OLB from Uconn

A buddy of mine in Texas has turned me on to another diamond in the rough, Stan Zwinggi, he has wheels

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAOPBKkPpT4

He could be a great late round pick to help immediately in the return game, particularly if Breaston's offensive responsibilities expand :cardinals:

[LD14]

No, we don't need another WR.

Seems like Whiz is serious about Alex Mack. Seems like we could package Early Doucet and swap picks with another team to move up into the 20's to get him.

Did I miss a article or interview? Just curious because I would be thrilled if that was true

[Hypothesis]

No, we don't need another WR.

Seems like Whiz is serious about Alex Mack. Seems like we could package Early Doucet and swap picks with another team to move up into the 20's to get him.

I'm not ready to deal Early Doucet. He will pan out nicely if one of our other wr's go down.

[3DaysLater]

No, we don't need another WR.

Seems like Whiz is serious about Alex Mack. Seems like we could package Early Doucet and swap picks with another team to move up into the 20's to get him.

I'm wondering what the source on this little tidbit is:eyes: ?

I'd be really surprised to see Whisenhunt worsen the team by packaging off young talent and more picks to move and draft Mack.

Do you have a source:grouphug: or are we talking conjecture:blahblah: here?

[btrain]

No, we don't need another WR.

Seems like Whiz is serious about Alex Mack. Seems like we could package Early Doucet and swap picks with another team to move up into the 20's to get him.

Zwinggi would not be drafted to play receiver, at least not specifically, he would be a return specialist and scat back, both of which we will need a new scat back, as Arrington's a free agent

[LD14]

Zwinggi would not be drafted to play receiver, at least not specifically, he would be a return specialist and scat back, both of which we will need a new scat back, as Arrington's a free agent

Idk. This is the scat back/KR I would want a little more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IRWT_woUOQ


This is with a bum knee supposedly. He's not invited to the combine either, so he should be around day two at least. Right now a few have him projected as a 4-5th pick.

[btrain]

Idk. This is the scat back/KR I would want a little more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IRWT_woUOQ


This is with a bum knee supposedly. He's not invited to the combine either, so he should be around day two at least. Right now a few have him projected as a 4-5th pick.

That is an amazing clip, but the tape is definitely sped up - everyone on the field is running like a gazelle on crack

[LD14]

That is an amazing clip, but the tape is definitely sped up - everyone on the field is running like a gazelle on crack

I thought so as well. Looks like it was sped up slighty, but Moore can supposedly run around the 4.3 range. Can catch and KR. Sounds like a JJ replacement for me if he's not resigned

[Paceman]

:redtowel: I have three picks in the areas I hope we need. That will mean that we keep both of our lines intact, Kurt resigns, and Boldin stays.

Malcolm Jenkins - Cornerback
Mark Sanchez - Quarterback (requires opening up some cap money by trading our own "Broadway Joe Namath", Matt Leinart.
Knowshow Marreno - RB which means James is gone. This kid will get it done alongside Arrington and our goal line specilist, Tim Highower.

OK agree or disagree. :cardinals:

DEFENSE (Defense wins Championships)

[CardCore]

No, we don't need another WR.

Seems like Whiz is serious about Alex Mack. Seems like we could package Early Doucet and swap picks with another team to move up into the 20's to get him.


It won't be necessarry to "package " Doucett to obtain Mack... We want to KEEP Doucett. He has big time potential. Centers won't be a hot item in the draft. IMO.
The last thing we need to do is trade away good potential to get in position to pick up someone that will likely be there anyway.

[LD14]

It won't be necessarry to "package " Doucett to obtain Mack... We want to KEEP Doucett. He has big time potential. Centers won't be a hot item in the draft. IMO.
The last thing we need to do is trade away good potential to get in position to pick up someone that will likely be there anyway.

Usually centers and guards are rarely drafted in the 1st. When you have a very promising prospect though, teams with later picks will pull the trigger. Mack is one of those guys, the fact that he can play guard also will only help his stock. At 31 he's a fantastic pick, I really hope he's there. I dont see us trading up

I think that after the Combine that's going on right now, Alex Mack will move up.

Plus, I have to say one thing in particular about Doucet. He was drafted before Steve Breaston showed that he could/would be the #3 WR. Now, with Steve entrenched at #3, and the #4 guy Jereme Urban, would be #3 on any other team, I just don't see any room for him.

Thats true about Doucet. We did grab him to help create competition for that #3 spot. Breaston saw a opportunity though when BJ left and work hard and its paid off for him. Too bad we didnt see that coming. We could of used another corner or safety last year.

[Domon Kasshu]

One guy I'd love to see us use a later round pick on is Ian Johnson from Boise State. Great character guy, and I get the feeling he's going to have a better pro career than people think. And this is coming from a Sooner.

I'd love to see us get Mack on the OL, and I think it's possible he'll fall. If Moreno actually fell to #31, I'd dance a jig, and I wouldn't be upset if we moved up to get him. A backfield of Moreno and Hightower would be scary, in a good way(for us, anyway). I'm iffy on McCoy, and if it came down to McCoy vs. Mack, I'd hope for Mack.

[CardsFan1399]

I have no problem with improving either line with our first pick if the quality is there. The guy I've got my heart set on right now is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IvvhjERrV0

[northsider]

OLB Larry English?
OLB Clay Matthews?
ILB James Laurinaitis?

For a team going to a 3-4, the Cards don't have enough linebackers.

[dutch_card]

I have no problem with improving either line with our first pick if the quality is there. The guy I've got my heart set on right now is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IvvhjERrV0Wow at 2:10...

That's a tough SOB.....


:sarcasm:

[bragz]

I agree. First should be OLB. I been reading up on this guy. Doesn't have size but in a 3-4 he's perfect.

Aaron Maybin

[SouthWest Scout]

I think that after the Combine that's going on right now, Alex Mack will move up.

Plus, I have to say one thing in particular about Doucet. He was drafted before Steve Breaston showed that he could/would be the #3 WR. Now, with Steve entrenched at #3, and the #4 guy Jereme Urban, would be #3 on any other team, I just don't see any room for him.

Hard to move up when you're not participating.

Cal's pro day should be heavily attended.

[3DaysLater]

I agree. First should be OLB. I been reading up on this guy. Doesn't have size but in a 3-4 he's perfect.

Aaron Maybin

Maybin will be long gone before pick #31 rolls around. But most of the press on him really good. It'll just be another team that gets to find out what he's really got in the tank.