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    Default Article: Cardinals poised to clean up on 2018 compensatory picks

    Today was the deadline for any free agent signings to affect next year’s compensatory pick total, and it appears that the Cardinals will have the best haul of compensatory picks in 2018. According to OverTheCap.com, the Cardinals will likely receive four picks for free agents who signed elsewhere this offseason: a third-round pick for Calais Campbell, a fourth-round pick for Tony Jefferson, a sixth-round pick for Marcus Cooper and a sixth-round pick for D.J. Swearinger.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...nsatory-picks/

    Perhaps the Cardinals didnt pick a QB in this years draft knowing they will have a lot of draft picks next year, which now they can package and move up to grab a QB in a class that should be better than this year. If that was their plan, they looking very smart right now.

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    Or the Cards could continue to regress and have lots of picks to surround the new rookie QB with promising young talent, and guys taken 3 rounds too early

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    Logan Woodside is not a day three pick, he is the best QB in college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardinalsDO View Post
    Realistically, to get the type of QB in that draft would make an impact will require multiple first and second round picks to move up. So those extra compensatory picks won't matter.

    Also, many of those players are worth far more than their compensatory picks. I would much rather have Cooper and Swearinger than two 6th round picks. Those two players would have made a big impact this year and we could have focused our draft on other players.
    Shoulda coulda woulda. Coop is average. Swearinger wasnt liked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cardinalsDO View Post
    Realistically, to get the type of QB in that draft would make an impact will require multiple first and second round picks to move up. So those extra compensatory picks won't matter.

    Also, many of those players are worth far more than their compensatory picks. I would much rather have Cooper and Swearinger than two 6th round picks. Those two players would have made a big impact this year and we could have focused our draft on other players.
    Well the real question is would you rather want Cooper and Swearinger than the two comp picks plus the $29.5 million dollars over three years to spend in other places. Each of them got expensive, three year contracts. Cooper was clearly not the answer at CB2, so why pay him $5-6 million per year? Swearinger reportedly was a locker room problem child. Their combined cap hits this year are $8-9 million. We can better spend that someplace else, plus get those two comp picks.

    There are not an unlimited number of dollars in a system with a fixed cap. Keim does a masterful job of navigating the system.

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    Savings of $$ instead of overpaying and getting compensatory picks to hopefully obtained cheap contributors to the team is well worth it .... besides Budda Baker is and will be better than TJ. Of course the biggest question is whether Nkemdiche can attain 95% or better the level of a 31 yr old Calais Campbell because other than that a return of a healthy Honey Badger and Bucannon along with definite improvement at the LB positions not even counting D'Wash.

    Hoping for good signals about Nkemdiche and the battle for CB2 -- this defense can be top 3 in the league.

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    Would be scary but if we need to move up into the top 3 to land a franchise QB, we have the ammo to do it.



    Even it were a Luck type QB, that would still sck. I love the draft. How awful would that be not having a 1st round pick for 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaz View Post
    Would be scary but if we need to move up into the top 3 to land a franchise QB, we have the ammo to do it.



    Even it were a Luck type QB, that would still sck. I love the draft. How awful would that be not having a 1st round pick for 2 years.

    It would take a bounty.

    Atlanta gave up two #1s, a #2, and two #4s to go from 27 to 6.

    To get up into top-3 would likely take that type of haul PLUS a third #1.

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    If you believe one of the QBs is your guy, I have no problem giving up a big haul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardinalsDO View Post
    Realistically, to get the type of QB in that draft would make an impact will require multiple first and second round picks to move up. So those extra compensatory picks won't matter.

    Also, many of those players are worth far more than their compensatory picks. I would much rather have Cooper and Swearinger than two 6th round picks. Those two players would have made a big impact this year and we could have focused our draft on other players.
    Those players left chasing bigger money. Those comp. picks do matter. Because if the Cards do send a draft package for a QB then they still have some picks to take players. Lots of good players can come out of those rounds. Heck Jefferson wasn't even drafted.

    I do think the more picks you have the better position you put yourself in for that big time QB without gutting your draft too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AriS. View Post
    Those players left chasing bigger money. Those comp. picks do matter. Because if the Cards do send a draft package for a QB then they still have some picks to take players. Lots of good players can come out of those rounds. Heck Jefferson wasn't even drafted.

    I do think the more picks you have the better position you put yourself in for that big time QB without gutting your draft too much.
    Having those extra picks just gives Keim more darts. Even he has said that the draft is such a crap shoot that merely having quantity gives you better odds at getting lucky and backing into quality.

    However, when it comes specifically to packaging picks to move up for a potential franchise QB, the comp picks are largely irrelevant, and nothing more than a trade kicker.

    The picks necessary to make that kind of move would be (multiple) 1s and 2s.

    In my mind, if Keim's plan all along had been to DRAFT the QBoF, he would have been stockpiling HIGH 2018 picks as far back as the '15 draft. For instance, trading a '15 #4 for a '16 #3. Then trading that #3 for a '17 #2. Then trading that for an '18 #1. Those kind of moves signal a GM who is thinking 2-3 drafts out and knowing that he will need capital to go up.

    I continue to think that the plan from the beginning has been to follow the Warner/Palmer blueprint, and bring in a veteran. Which is why they aren't wasting their time drafting a guy. Stafford, Bradford, Cousins. Unfortunately, there is luck needed to make those things happen, and the Cards haven't had any. The Lions miraculously took a 4-12 team to a 9-7 record. Bridgewater looks like he might not ever play another snap. And Shanahan is almost certainly going to pay a fortune to bring Cousins to SF.
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