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    Default Gut feeling who the cardinals may pursue for Qb after Palmer

    Some will think this is nuts but I think this could be the guy to replace Palmer until they get a young Qb ready.

    Here it goes, I think it will be Alex Smith am I nuts or do you think this move makes sense ?
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    I don't think it's very likely. Smith doesn't fit BA style of offense. He is more of a west coast guy. Plus the fact he is or will be 34 soon. Truthfully I think BA is hoping beyond hope that Gabbert shows enough. He has the arm for BA's offense. Now the question is can BA turn him into a viable QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbirdfan62 View Post
    Some will think this is nuts but I think this could be the guy to replace Palmer until they get a young Qb ready.

    Here it goes, I think it will be Alex Smith am I nuts or do you think this move makes sense ?
    I think I'd make an appointment to get your "gut" checked out. (lol)

    Smith is a dink and dunk QB who can't throw outside the numbers.

    A couple of seasons ago, he had the dubious distinction of not throwing one TD to a wideout.

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    Alex Smith? Disgusting. Just trade the farm for a guy you feel confident in. I want to see Keim be aggressive in his QB search like he was for Budda Baker.
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    Tough call, but I don't think it would be Smith for the same reason I didn't see Kaep here...bad fit.

    Stafford would be awesome but probably stays in Detroit. Almost no chance he's available.

    I like Cousins a lot but if by some chance he's available I expect he's going to be a 49er.

    Bradford would be ok in BAs system but if Bridgewater isn't fixed he stays in Minn.

    I liked Bortles and he may be available but he also may be damaged as an NFL QB. Can he be "fixed"?

    My dream is Carr and Oakland have a horrible falling out and we get yet another legit QB from the Raiders. Zero chance of that but hey it's a dream.

    I think if Carson retires we have money and tons of draft pick equity, so at least have flexibility to go after a vet or a high QB pick. Can also trade future picks or solid players who are getting "older" and who we have young replacements in line behind, like Veldheer or Iupati.

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    Sorry, but I can't see captain check-down and Arians coexisting. Arians has had his most success when he has a big QB with big arm who will stand in the pocket and deliver the 6-10 deep balls Arians calls each game. Arians would call those plays, Alex would stand in the pocket for an hour and a half, declining to take the deep shot, and then dump it off to a RB. That would make Arians lose his mind.

    Also, Smith isn't that much younger than Palmer, and he has his own lengthy injury history. He's not a QBOF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seahawks4ever View Post
    Sorry, but I can't see captain check-down and Arians coexisting. Arians has had his most success when he has a big QB with big arm who will stand in the pocket and deliver the 6-10 deep balls Arians calls each game. Arians would call those plays, Alex would stand in the pocket for an hour and a half, declining to take the deep shot, and then dump it off to a RB. That would make Arians lose his mind.

    Also, Smith isn't that much younger than Palmer, and he has his own lengthy injury history. He's not a QBOF.
    We are not sure BA rides off in to the sunset along with Palmer and Fitz. Checking down to Ellington and David Johnson don't sound so bad lol. The seahawks lost games due to that with Palmer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Heat View Post
    Tough call, but I don't think it would be Smith for the same reason I didn't see Kaep here...bad fit.

    Stafford would be awesome but probably stays in Detroit. Almost no chance he's available.

    I like Cousins a lot but if by some chance he's available I expect he's going to be a 49er.

    Bradford would be ok in BAs system but if Bridgewater isn't fixed he stays in Minn.

    I liked Bortles and he may be available but he also may be damaged as an NFL QB. Can he be "fixed"?

    My dream is Carr and Oakland have a horrible falling out and we get yet another legit QB from the Raiders. Zero chance of that but hey it's a dream.

    I think if Carson retires we have money and tons of draft pick equity, so at least have flexibility to go after a vet or a high QB pick. Can also trade future picks or solid players who are getting "older" and who we have young replacements in line behind, like Veldheer or Iupati.
    Didn't you start a thread last season about opinions on Nick Foles?

    See how things shake out w/ Gabbert and if not good, that might be worth exploring...

    Somebody could pry him outta Philly after this season I suppose....
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    Cards may be a the point where it is not getting a superior QB that they really want, it is getting a competent QB who can manage a offense.

    Alex Smith certainly doesn't match up well with BA's vertical deep-pass offense. The key point is that it may be BA who is the sticking point and his reluctance to modify the O to match the QB is the problem.

    A superior coach will take the talent he has and put in a game plan that will maximize those players on the roster.

    Alex Smith is dink-and-dunk . . . but so was Joe Montana. It is the coach and the game plan that may have to change if Gabbert doesn't work out.

    Since joining KC, Alex Smith has gone (record as the starting QB):

    2013 11-4
    2014 8-7
    2015 11-5
    2016 11-4

    For the four years, 41-20-0

    Since joining AZ, Palmer has gone:

    2013 10-6
    2014 6-0
    2015 13-3
    2016 6-8-1

    For the four years, 35-17-1

    The records look pretty comparable. We can do a lot worse than Alex Smith---just have to adjust BA's offense to match the player and not the other way around.

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    Ah. The coaching staff. BA is the biggest wild card on the staff. Will he continue to force the deep ball like he does or will he have learned to take his shots when available. That's the biggest question. This line the way it's constructed isn't set up for those long developing pass plays. Most of the guys on the line are better run blockers. Not saying their not decent pass blockers, but their not good enough pass blockers for those long developing pass plays. Get the defense thinking about the short quick passes and the runs then they will have time for an occasional deep pass. But if BA goes bombs away from the get go Carson is going to be on his back side a lot.

    Not saying BA has to go west coast, but he has to get more 3 and 5 step drops in the game plan. He has to make the D guess when he is going for the deep ball. Make the D play more straight up. And use your TE more BA !!!

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