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Thread: Gut feeling who the cardinals may pursue for Qb after Palmer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itancan View Post
    Ah. The coaching staff. BA is the biggest wild card on the staff. Will he continue to force the deep ball like he does or will he have learned to take his shots when available. That's the biggest question. This line the way it's constructed isn't set up for those long developing pass plays. Most of the guys on the line are better run blockers. Not saying their not decent pass blockers, but their not good enough pass blockers for those long developing pass plays. Get the defense thinking about the short quick passes and the runs then they will have time for an occasional deep pass. But if BA goes bombs away from the get go Carson is going to be on his back side a lot.

    Not saying BA has to go west coast, but he has to get more 3 and 5 step drops in the game plan. He has to make the D guess when he is going for the deep ball. Make the D play more straight up. And use your TE more BA !!!
    Short, medium, go long are options not dictates to CP.

    Tight-end became more of an option as the season progressed and I don't think they signed a 28 year old to $7m per to simply block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy-Canuck View Post
    What do I want?

    First for you to recognize that we hired Arians not Reid and that Keim drafted wideouts (Brown, JJ) to help implement his offensive approach.

    Changing an offensive system is more complicated than ripping out pages and adding some to a play book. Personnel comes into play, blocking schemes change. It's not simply plug and play.

    It's the BA & SK tandem running the shop and I suspect they'll be searching high and wide before turning to Captain Checkdown, which, to pick up your point, would probably drive BA into retirement
    Speed receivers are not only used for deep stretching of the defense,speed helps in many ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARdizzles View Post
    Regardless of who the head coach is, and how good the runningback is, or how good the defense is; I still would rather swing and miss on a great QB than settle for a game manager. I do not care if we can win with a less impressive QB. I want to dominate the other team with an awesome QB. This argument of we can win with an average guy is ridiculous, we can win more with a great player at the most important position.
    We are in a position to do both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARdizzles View Post
    Yes.


    Plus this entire thread is based on the idea that Mahomes is ready to start after this year. Wasn't everyone telling me a month ago how unready that guy would be to play NFL QB after 1 year?
    You really think that is not the plan to turn Mahomes loose next year ? and Smith is in his last year you won't see the franchise tag on smith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUTMEIN View Post
    Thank you. Logic is our forte.

    My concern was that a Smith hiring results in another major FO disappointment.

    If I was GM, I'd pursue Kirk Cousins before Alex Smith in 2018. Youth is the biggest difference here, and Cousins is proven durable and effective with a mediocre Redskins offense.
    Kirk Cousins might be a target since there is no way they can afford to tag him again but what has cousins done to think he is more worthy then smith ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbirdfan62 View Post
    Speed receivers are not only used for deep stretching of the defense,speed helps in many ways.
    Yeah... but we know why Brown and JJ are on this team and it's to stretch the "D".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbirdfan62 View Post
    Kirk Cousins might be a target since there is no way they can afford to tag him again but what has cousins done to think he is more worthy then smith ?
    It's about "fit" not the subjective "worthy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbirdfan62 View Post
    Kirk Cousins might be a target since there is no way they can afford to tag him again but what has cousins done to think he is more worthy then smith ?
    Throw a ball in the air farther than 10 yards?

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    Where did the 'negative' stereotype of Alex Smith come from?

    A checkdown pass to DJ that goes for 15 yards isn't much different than a sideline pass to JJ that goes for 15 yards. Wait a minute, they both gained 15 yards.

    I look at his career record and see a QB that can 'manage' a game and also win a few along the way.

    I was going to do a comparison of the stats between Palmer/Smith/Cousins and see where the difference lies. For me to compile the numbers would be a futile exercise because too many forum members have their stereotype of Alex Smith firmly planted in their mind. I see enough positives in Smith to be comfortable bringing him in over any college newbie.

    For those dead-set against Smith, look at his stats vs Palmer (or Cousins) and tell me where he is so bad? The stats include Yards/Catch, Net Yards/Catch, QBR, sacks per attempt, etc.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...S/SmitAl03.htm

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...P/PalmCa00.htm

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...C/CousKi00.htm


    Here's a 2014 article that made the point that KC had to sign Alex Smith to a franchise QB contract:
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...as-city-chiefs

    That 2014 article still holds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardCore View Post
    Man. I really thought you were better than that for some stupid reason. Better reel in and change to a fresh new hook and some better bait.
    The answer is pretty simple: stupid people come up with stupid reasons.

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