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    Default Lions "like what we see with Kaaya"


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    Quote Originally Posted by McCollum,Travis View Post
    The Cheifs drafted Mahomes not the Lions.
    Dang these meds are affecting my memory lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbirdfan62 View Post
    Dang these meds are affecting my memory lol.
    As long as they don't affect other important organs, you're good to go.

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    Looks like the Lions are going to do everything possible to sign Stafford:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...tever-it-takes

    Strange comment by the Lions President Ron Wood to do "whatever it takes" to sign Stafford. Of course he's right--but why let the player's agent know that he can write his own ticket!

    Palmer's arrival to the Cards as a gift from the Raiders is looking more and more like a once in a franchise deal.
    Last edited by Canyonram; 06-21-2017 at 09:23 AM. Reason: Tyoo correction

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    Stafford and Cousions were never and will never be a option for Arizona next qb.

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    Makes me sick to my stomach.

    Hopefully it's just them talking him up to Garner future trade opportunities.
    Still searching for our QBOF.

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    both guys get a Mention..so much for That
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...tever-it-takes
    The Big A era begins.... Tick tock..7 games and counting

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    Franchise quarterbacks don't get let go from their teams. You have to be A) mediocre , B) terribly old , or C) a raging malcontent.

    Only real hope you have is finding an older qb in a bad situation, where everyone thinks he sucks but its actually the team that sucks. Kurt and CP are solid examples of that.
    Once my pants are on, I make the playoffs- Ayy Zee Crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZCrazy View Post
    Franchise quarterbacks don't get let go from their teams. You have to be A) mediocre , B) terribly old , or C) a raging malcontent.

    Only real hope you have is finding an older qb in a bad situation, where everyone thinks he sucks but its actually the team that sucks. Kurt and CP are solid examples of that.
    A team's QB is a franchise QB until they are not. That happens for a lot of reasons in addition to the three you listed.

    QB can be traded/released for:

    (1) change of mgmt either coach, GM. The current QB doesn't match the new playbook, coach, etc (Palmer & Raiders)
    (2) energize the fan base by making a change (local guy Goff with Rams),
    (3) behind the scenes concerns such as drugs/alcohol/legal problems (Vick,)
    (4) injury history (Bradford with Rams),
    (5) physical skills starting to erode with age, injury,
    (6) draft opportunity to bring in a new cheaper guy and let the old guy walk/get traded,
    (7) team invested in a high draft pick and want to play the new guy over the old (Warner with the Giants),
    (8) still early in the guy's career and team mgmt not convinced he's the one to take them to the 'next level' even though he has shown positive signs (Nick Foles),
    (8) dsyfunctional team ownership, management with big egos who think they know better than to keep a promising QB (or coach--see recent 49ers)
    (9) QB wants to go to a different team and with the ability to hit UFA, can have some influence where he plays (reports are that Cousins would like to join Shanahan in San Fran).

    (The list was off the top-of-my-head as were the examples---add more if you think of them)

    For Stafford, put him in the mediocre + high salary + make a change. In addition, if the Lions have a poor record this year, they may find themselves with a high draft pick. Don't forget his career record is sub .500 and he is going to price himself in the upper levels of QB pay. Lions may decide they can do better than .500 for a $25 million dollar man. While Stafford is still 'young' he is close to the magical 30 years old for a QB.

    For Cousins, put him in the Dsyfunctional team ownership + still young in his career and team not convinced he is the guy (Wash has already gone massive one-year contracts while seeing if he is the guy) + raging malcontent + desire of the QB to play somewhere else (most likely SF).

    At first glance, you'd think that both Stafford and Cousins would stay put and their teams would do everything to keep their 'franchise guy.' They become available when you go down the list of why QBs leave their team and see reasons why they are no longer the 'franchise guy.'
    Last edited by Canyonram; 06-22-2017 at 10:12 AM. Reason: correction on Stafford's age

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    Time travellers are making being a fan hard for the rest of us.

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