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    Quote Originally Posted by Itancan View Post
    I realize pro athletes have a short window of opportunity, but my goodness these contracts are getting totally out of hand. Guess who pays for a portion of those contracts ? The average working guy who goes to a game, and spends an enormous amount on tickets.

    I made a good living as a heavy haul truck driver. Somewhere over 85 grand a year. I went to 1 game a year when the Cards came to Seattle. That one game with tickets, parking, concessions cost me over 250 dollars. Sorry but that's a lot of money to spend just for a game of football to watch. I actually stopped going the last couple of years. I have other ways I can spend 250 bucks. Besides I get it on my big screen tv. My Lazy Boy is a lot more comfortable than those seats, and I don't have to fight traffic either.
    A portion? I'd think almost all of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itancan View Post
    I realize pro athletes have a short window of opportunity, but my goodness these contracts are getting totally out of hand. Guess who pays for a portion of those contracts ? The average working guy who goes to a game, and spends an enormous amount on tickets.
    guess who's helping those contracts go "out of hand". the average working guy who goes to a game or buys sunday ticket, jerseys and throws his "hard earned" money down the owners throats...


    another thing that needs to be considered:
    the rise of the salary cap over the last couple of years, increase by more than 30% from 2012 to 2017. but player contracts haven't kept up with that rise und haven't adjusted yet. Derek Carr $25m a year sounds like a huge contract and just money wise it is. BUT those $25m are more team friendly and a smaller percentage of the salary cap than for example Aaron Rodgers $22m(?) contact in 2013...

    why we haven't seen contracts based on a percentage of the salary cap I don't know. maybe cousins will be the first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Switzerland View Post
    guess who's helping those contracts go "out of hand". the average working guy who goes to a game or buys sunday ticket, jerseys and throws his "hard earned" money down the owners throats...


    another thing that needs to be considered:
    the rise of the salary cap over the last couple of years, increase by more than 30% from 2012 to 2017. but player contracts haven't kept up with that rise und haven't adjusted yet. Derek Carr $25m a year sounds like a huge contract and just money wise it is. BUT those $25m are more team friendly and a smaller percentage of the salary cap than for example Aaron Rodgers $22m(?) contact in 2013...

    why we haven't seen contracts based on a percentage of the salary cap I don't know. maybe cousins will be the first.
    The key ingredients to the financial success of the NFL is Revenue Sharing and the Salary Cap.

    Teams split the income from the very lucrative media contracts which keeps small market teams (like the Cards, Jags, Chiefs) in the same income-earning league as the big market teams (like the Pats, Giants, Eagles, and with the move to LA, the Rams).

    http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news...01x3vu875oeaq6

    https://fansided.com/2017/04/02/rams...aring-2016-17/


    The salary cap keeps small market teams competitive with the big boys. Every team has the same budget in regards to player contracts that evens the talent acquisition (provided the team can manage their cap space).

    The money that comes in on tickets sales from the average fan is the least of the income generation. Teams can play to an empty stadium and with the socialism included in Revenue Sharing, the team still makes a profit. It is the big bucks coming in via advertising during media broadcasts that fund the NFL. Here, it is the 'average' fan purchasing the products advertised during the games.

    The fan base of the different teams is mirrored in the relative exposure each gets on national media shows. Listen to 'Mike and Mike' out of NY and you'd think the Jets, Giants, Eagles, and Steelers are the NFL---teams like the Bengals, Jags, and Chiefs are rarely the topic of extended debate.

    The Cowpies are still a team with a wide fan base as are the Pats, Steelers. Our Cards are near the bottom in terms of fan base: relatively new to AZ, small media market, other established teams as the preference for fans who have relocated to Phoenix/AZ, not yet a big family tradition to be a Cards fan (we have to win that SB). Cards need to be more aggressive in expanding their reach---increase broadcasts into Mexico, turn some disappointed Charger fans.

    https://scholarblogs.emory.edu/esma/...rankings-2017/

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    Cousins was awful in his 1st PS game last night...played just 6 downs, -1 yds.

    QB and Offense overwhelmed. Team not prepared.

    If Cousins is auditioning for 31 other teams for 2018, so far, I pass.

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    is this considered fantasy football? isn't there a forum dedicated to fantasy football?

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    Stafford won't be available. Detroit will pay him way too much money. Cousins will ask way too much and go to SF. The Cards draft a qb in 2018 and wisely so.
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    FWIW. Stafford went 2 for 3, 36 yds, 1 INT, vs. the Colt's 1st team today. INT was no big deal. As I expected, Stafford's ready for the NFL season opener at home vs. the Cards. The Lions D was all over the weak Colts O.

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    OBTW, Garoppolo v. the JAX Jags went 22 of 28 for 235 yards and 2 touchdowns in a 31-24 loss last night. That's hot. BL: The G-Man was no fluke in 2016 v. ARZ. BB's got his QBofF locked up and the AFC East Div crown and AFC crown games also may be booked at Gillette Stadium for another decade. How's he continue to do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUTMEIN View Post
    OBTW, Garoppolo v. the JAX Jags went 22 of 28 for 235 yards and 2 touchdowns in a 31-24 loss last night. That's hot. BL: The G-Man was no fluke in 2016 v. ARZ. BB's got his QBofF locked up and the AFC East Div crown and AFC crown games also may be booked at Gillette Stadium for another decade. How's he continue to do it?
    wow...some BB`s catch all the breaks
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    Quote Originally Posted by PUTMEIN View Post
    FWIW. Stafford went 2 for 3, 36 yds, 1 INT, vs. the Colt's 1st team today. INT was no big deal. As I expected, Stafford's ready for the NFL season opener at home vs. the Cards. The Lions D was all over the weak Colts O.
    The Lions D just lost the only DL player (ACL) that was decent last year in Hyder. Their leading sack leader last year with 8. He had 1/3 of their sacks last year (well, slightly less. 8/26, but you get the point). So while Stafford and the offense might be ready. Their defense has a LOT to prove and make up for. They were 2nd to last last season in sacks... Doesn't look like they're going to improve this season.

    Looks like this game is going to be an offensive shootout. I'll take out offense AND defense over their any day of the week. Even with a question mark at CB2
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