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    Quote Originally Posted by JagNCard225 View Post
    Minkah lol
    "...he is the best college defensive back Nick Saban ever has coached." Ref: Gridiron.com. Hyperbole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Heat View Post
    The only strike out here was Cooper, who broke his leg and was never the same. He became a piece of the Chandler Jones trade. Mathis was also hurt. Don't you remember the Oline from 4+ years ago?

    The problem is when people start taking stock in what was spent rather than whats on the field.

    This is a legitimate argument ive heard "We just spent a 1st on Cooper 4 years ago, we cant spend a 1st on a G again already".

    What does Cooper have to do with the 2017 Cardinals Oline? Because we spent a 1st on Cooper 4 years ago, does that mean his ghost is our there blocking for us now? No. We have a hole. Its irrelevant what or when we spent. Obviously that person didnt fill the hole. So you try again.

    Look at the Rams. Theres talk that if they have the #1 pick next year, they take Sam Darnold. And yeah, they just took Goff 2 years ago. But Goff looks like a bust and Darnold looks like a franchise QB. So you dont allowwhat you did in the past dictate what you do moving forward.


    Cardinals example:

    We just signed Edge James. We had a shot at Adrian Peterson. Took Levi Brown instead.
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    Card's 1st round pick goes for a QB---either an established vet or a trade-up deal for one of the highly-rated rookies.

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    Future Cardinal QB Josh Rosen. BA can straighten him out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdgang95 View Post
    Future Cardinal QB Josh Rosen. BA can straighten him out.

    Q - what universally disliked QB has ever been "straightened out" and been successful in the NFL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaz View Post
    Q - what universally disliked QB has ever been "straightened out" and been successful in the NFL?
    First of all, loaded question. "When are you gonna stop beating your wife?" Who says Rosen is "universally disliked?" Other than you.

    Secondly, he is certainly not "disliked" as a football talent. As a dude? I'm sure he rubs many people the wrong way. Not unusual for a QB, since they tend to have strong personalities. But if you are asking for examples:

    Russell Wilson's teammates at NC State hated him. He turned out OK.

    Ben Roethlisberger ***** a woman. There are many people who dislike him as a human being. He, too, has carved out a pretty decent football career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVcardsFan View Post
    First of all, loaded question. "When are you gonna stop beating your wife?" Who says Rosen is "universally disliked?" Other than you.

    Secondly, he is certainly not "disliked" as a football talent. As a dude? I'm sure he rubs many people the wrong way. Not unusual for a QB, since they tend to have strong personalities. But if you are asking for examples:

    Russell Wilson's teammates at NC State hated him. He turned out OK.

    Ben Roethlisberger ***** a woman. There are many people who dislike him as a human being. He, too, has carved out a pretty decent football career.
    Ben was already 5 years into his career and an established star. And same as Favre, these guys were beloved. They werent petulant little kids. Rosen is a total nard who has well documented brat issues.

    And Russ was also loved. That nobody ex teammate only went after him for criticizing a coach who told Russ hed never make it in the NFL. Both that coach and players are nothins and dont matter. Russ is a helluva great guy.


    You know who the best comparison for Rosen is? Manziel. Joe Thomas and half the Browns locker room have said he behaves like a bratty teenager and wasnt committed to the profession.

    Rosen may be different, but I think thats the path hes on.
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    Just in passing, doesn't really matter even possibly, but I read on PFT that some of Darnold's close friends say he will probably play another year after 2017. So there's a possibility that the QB pool for the 2018 draft could shrink by one at least.

    Stay tuned for more crucial information.
    The question of Daryl Washington.

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    Wow ! Way to early for this. So much we don't know to even speculate about who we draft and where we draft. Were not going to have any answers until about half way through the season.

    We have question marks at just about every position on the team except for RB. That's just on the offensive side of the ball. On defense we have questions at every position. Were not going to know what our biggest need is until the season is almost over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itancan View Post
    Wow ! Way to early for this. So much we don't know to even speculate about who we draft and where we draft. Were not going to have any answers until about half way through the season.

    We have question marks at just about every position on the team except for RB. That's just on the offensive side of the ball. On defense we have questions at every position. Were not going to know what our biggest need is until the season is almost over.

    Look at the main page of the forum. It could not be more dead around here.

    If you got a better topic idea, feel free.

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