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    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Heat View Post
    We took Cooper in the first, Humphries in the first, spent huge money on Veldheer and Iupati, took Dorian this year, an early Center last year, signed a Pro Bowl Super Bowl winning G from Denver in Mathis last year, and tons of other lower level draft picks and moves on the Oline, all in the short BASK era. They aren't being cheap on the Oline by any means.
    BASK simply has trouble judging o line talent. That is a lot of effort for the overall poor results shown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsterike View Post
    BASK simply has trouble judging o line talent. That is a lot of effort for the overall poor results shown.
    The only strike out here was Cooper, who broke his leg and was never the same. He became a piece of the Chandler Jones trade. Mathis was also hurt. Don't you remember the Oline from 4+ years ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JagNCard225 View Post
    Minkah lol
    "...he is the best college defensive back Nick Saban ever has coached." Ref: Gridiron.com. Hyperbole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Heat View Post
    The only strike out here was Cooper, who broke his leg and was never the same. He became a piece of the Chandler Jones trade. Mathis was also hurt. Don't you remember the Oline from 4+ years ago?

    The problem is when people start taking stock in what was spent rather than whats on the field.

    This is a legitimate argument ive heard "We just spent a 1st on Cooper 4 years ago, we cant spend a 1st on a G again already".

    What does Cooper have to do with the 2017 Cardinals Oline? Because we spent a 1st on Cooper 4 years ago, does that mean his ghost is our there blocking for us now? No. We have a hole. Its irrelevant what or when we spent. Obviously that person didnt fill the hole. So you try again.

    Look at the Rams. Theres talk that if they have the #1 pick next year, they take Sam Darnold. And yeah, they just took Goff 2 years ago. But Goff looks like a bust and Darnold looks like a franchise QB. So you dont allowwhat you did in the past dictate what you do moving forward.


    Cardinals example:

    We just signed Edge James. We had a shot at Adrian Peterson. Took Levi Brown instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PUTMEIN View Post
    "...he is the best college defensive back Nick Saban ever has coached." Ref: Gridiron.com. Hyperbole?
    He looks like the perfect ******** CB, but not likely to be available for the Cards. Mitch Hyatt has hit every marker at OT. Fought Nkemdiche to a draw in HS, when Robert was regarded as the best player in the country. Mitch was about 3 years younger than Robert at the time. Started at LT from the day he stepped on campus for the National Champs. He's just a junior, but unless he gets hurt I imagine he would be given 1st round grade and enter draft. Connor Williams from Texas is another, but he seems to be rated ahead of Hyatt at this point. Mike McGlinchey could fall a bit because he's a couple years older than the other top prospects. He would be more game ready. If they're at the back end of the round, I think there's a chance the best local talent, Christian Kirk or Mark Andrews could be available. Kirk is a bit undersized, without eye popping speed, as a WR which may offset his production. Andrews is great receiving TE, but comes with blocking questions.

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    Card's 1st round pick goes for a QB---either an established vet or a trade-up deal for one of the highly-rated rookies.

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    Future Cardinal QB Josh Rosen. BA can straighten him out.
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    Default All the FIRST OVERALL QBs still in the league

    Had a combined 50-50 record last season I think. The only one who's won a Super Bowl is Eli Manning, but not for the team that drafted him. Plus he was more of a passenger on those Giant teams than the key component. Finding a magic bullet QB in the draft who makes everything else fine is pie in the sky stuff. You just need a competent QB with a good team and coaching staff. Brady started out third string the year he won his first Super Bowl. He was just a game manager until his fourth or fifth season.

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