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    Default Deal or No Deal

    Before any tell me this is not Madden, I know that the NFL doesn't make trades like this but what would you think of this deal.

    Cards trade Veldheer & Bethel for Sherman.

    Reasons Cardinals would do this:
    1. PP and Sherman are the CBs nuf said
    2. Dorian Johnson gets to start at RT

    Reasons Seahawks would do this deal:
    1. They need help on the OL
    2. Sherman asked to be traded
    3. Bethel could be Sherman's replacement

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    Quote Originally Posted by No. 1 fan View Post
    Before any tell me this is not Madden, I know that the NFL doesn't make trades like this but what would you think of this deal.

    Cards trade Veldheer & Bethel for Sherman.

    Reasons Cardinals would do this:
    1. PP and Sherman are the CBs nuf said
    2. Dorian Johnson gets to start at RT

    Reasons Seahawks would do this deal:
    1. They need help on the OL
    2. Sherman asked to be traded
    3. Bethel could be Sherman's replacement

    No.

    This is the definition of a lose-lose.

    No way the Cards would weaken their OL (second-most important position group on the team since they are tasked with protecting the MOST important (the 37-year-old QB)) to bring on a CB who would be mediocre at best in the Bettcher system.

    And no way the Seahawks would trade a CB who fits their Cover-3 for an OL. Seattle purposely doesn't invest in the OL. It's simple economics in a sport with a salary cap. Now that they have to pay their defenders and their QB, they have to skimp everywhere else, and they have a QB who can make plays by getting outside the pocket and ad-libbing.
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    Far more important to have a strong Oline (and for the Seachickens to have a weaker one) than to get a CB2. And Bethel's loss would hurt too. He's still our gunner last I checked.

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    While I would love to have 2 true shut down CB's.

    The thing that would bother me most is that we might be helping a divisional rival, and a hated one at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas cat View Post
    While I would love to have 2 true shut down CB's.
    Are the Cards trading for 2009 Darrelle Revis?

    Richard Sherman is anything but a "true shutdown CB."

    He covers space, knowing he doesn't have to worry about the middle of the field (Kam and Wagner ready to decapitate) or over-the-top (one of the 3 best FS in NFL history- Thomas- covering for him.)

    Sherman, while better than Bethel, would give the Cardinals about what they got from Antonio Cromartie. There is no way you give up your most consistent OL for the last 3 years for a that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No. 1 fan View Post
    Before any tell me this is not Madden, I know that the NFL doesn't make trades like this but what would you think of this deal.

    Cards trade Veldheer & Bethel for Sherman.

    Reasons Cardinals would do this:
    1. PP and Sherman are the CBs nuf said
    2. Dorian Johnson gets to start at RT

    Reasons Seahawks would do this deal:
    1. They need help on the OL
    2. Sherman asked to be traded
    3. Bethel could be Sherman's replacement
    If Bethel could be Sherman's replacement why do you want to do this?

    Dorian is a LG. Not sure about "gets to start at RT".

    Division rivals don't typically work out trades like this.

    No deal.
    The question of Daryl Washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVcardsFan View Post
    Are the Cards trading for 2009 Darrelle Revis?

    Richard Sherman is anything but a "true shutdown CB."

    He covers space, knowing he doesn't have to worry about the middle of the field (Kam and Wagner ready to decapitate) or over-the-top (one of the 3 best FS in NFL history- Thomas- covering for him.)

    Sherman, while better than Bethel, would give the Cardinals about what they got from Antonio Cromartie. There is no way you give up your most consistent OL for the last 3 years for a that.
    Lol...I may have been a little overzealous calling him a "true shutdown CB", but that's not to say we couldn't use him much like he is used now.

    Either way, this won't and shouldn't happen for the reasons already stated.
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    I'd say NO for all the reasons other NO voters have given!

    Teams are loathe to trade to an immediate rival for fear that the trade comes back to haunt them. We play Seattle at least twice a year---both GMs don't want to see the player(s) they traded come back and do some evil things against their old team.

    Plus, Sherman is on the downside. Without the dominating play of the Thomas, Sherman will be toast.

    Sherman is a disruptive influence---he's still pizzed about the SB loss and holds a grudge against the Offense for the loss. Need 100% team loyalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas cat View Post
    Lol...I may have been a little overzealous calling him a "true shutdown CB", but that's not to say we couldn't use him much like he is used now.

    Either way, this won't and shouldn't happen for the reasons already stated.
    Fair enough.

    If Arizona is going to truly INVEST in (pay for) a CB2, I'd rather have either of Denver's CB (who actually CAN play man) over Sherman.

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    The think with Sherman is he excels in that D scheme with the people around him. He isn't a press corner. He is mostly in a zone. I don't think he would have been so successful if he was in another scheme. Pass on Sherman.

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