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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaz View Post
    I can go on youtube right now and see hobby punters bootin balls into buckets from 50 yards. You cannot tell me its this hard to find a good punter.

    Only 2 college punters gets drafted every year. Which means theres 400 former undrafted unemployed punters in the world.
    Right. Guess there's 400 guys in the world who could do the job but are making $500k + in the real world and couldn't be bothered.
    Time travellers are making being a fan hard for the rest of us.

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    Default Cardinals look at punter Brock Miller

    From Southern Utah. Averaged a tad over 43 yards over his last 2 seasons there.

    Been trying to make a roster since 2013.

    "Infamous for pinning opponents deep in their territory."


    http://cardswire.usatoday.com/2017/0...-work-one-out/
    The question of Daryl Washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy-Canuck View Post
    Right. Guess there's 400 guys in the world who could do the job but are making $500k + in the real world and couldn't be bothered.
    There may not be but based on what has been going on here for several years, we should have been scouring the world to find one. Maybe they should do a job posting on the internet. Apparently our scouting department doesn't know what to look for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RimrockCard View Post
    There was something evil afoot with the Butler shenanigans ..dark family secrets we shall never grasp........but by all means we need Drew back..its the only path
    Can we get Kolb back too?

    It's painfully obvious that ST have never been a concern for BA until his head coaching career here and by the time he recognized how big of a dumpster fire they were it was toooooo late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomer719 View Post
    Can we get Kolb back too?

    It's painfully obvious that ST have never been a concern for BA until his head coaching career here and by the time he recognized how big of a dumpster fire they were it was toooooo late.
    Maybe because he had a good kicker and punter along with cover and return teams in his short stint as HC with INDY? I would look to the GM, I'm guessing he signed Butler and the long snapper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RimrockCard View Post
    There was something evil afoot with the Butler shenanigans ..dark family secrets we shall never grasp........but by all means we need Drew back..its the only path
    That's what's so aggravating about the whole Butler fiasco... Arians and Keim haven't and will never come clean about the real reason for keeping him around, so everything they do in regard to the kicking game will always be viewed with suspicion by a fair amount of Cardinal fans. At least whatever grief they get will be of their own doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RimrockCard View Post
    There was something evil afoot with the Butler shenanigans ..dark family secrets we shall never grasp........but by all means we need Drew back..its the only path
    The Dallas Cowboys experienced something similar when Parcells was coach. Parcells was a great head coach but a terrible GM and an evaluator of talent in general. The Cowboys would retain a lot of bad players and even coaches. The mantra became "Friends of Bill" or FOB. So when a bad player was retained, it was obvious he was retained because he was an FOB.

    The same applies now. Arians is a great coach but there are players on the team simply because Arians likes them on a personal level. Butler and Catanzaro were here last year only because of that reason.

    You can see the same pattern. You have two willful stubborn coaches that will impose their will and retain a bad player because he likes him. If it were up to Keim, he probably would have gotten rid of the punter and kicker early but probably felt pressured by Arians to retain them.

    We have the same thing here: Friend of Bruce (FOB) As with Parcells in Dallas, you will see similar FOB moves. When Parcells was forced to "retire" by Jerry Jones, Jones gutted the organization of Parcells guys because Jones was tired of all the FOB moves in terms of both coaching assistants and players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cardinalsDO View Post
    The Dallas Cowboys experienced something similar when Parcells was coach. Parcells was a great head coach but a terrible GM and an evaluator of talent in general. The Cowboys would retain a lot of bad players and even coaches. The mantra became "Friends of Bill" or FOB. So when a bad player was retained, it was obvious he was retained because he was an FOB.

    The same applies now. Arians is a great coach but there are players on the team simply because Arians likes them on a personal level. Butler and Catanzaro were here last year only because of that reason.

    You can see the same pattern. You have two willful stubborn coaches that will impose their will and retain a bad player because he likes him. If it were up to Keim, he probably would have gotten rid of the punter and kicker early but probably felt pressured by Arians to retain them.

    We have the same thing here: Friend of Bruce (FOB) As with Parcells in Dallas, you will see similar FOB moves. When Parcells was forced to "retire" by Jerry Jones, Jones gutted the organization of Parcells guys because Jones was tired of all the FOB moves in terms of both coaching assistants and players.
    Complete and utter Do-Do!
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    This is discouraging. We are a month out from the season and ST are still a wreck. All off-season and we can't fix this problem.
    Still searching for our QBOF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardinalsDO View Post
    The Dallas Cowboys experienced something similar when Parcells was coach. Parcells was a great head coach but a terrible GM and an evaluator of talent in general. The Cowboys would retain a lot of bad players and even coaches. The mantra became "Friends of Bill" or FOB. So when a bad player was retained, it was obvious he was retained because he was an FOB.

    The same applies now. Arians is a great coach but there are players on the team simply because Arians likes them on a personal level. Butler and Catanzaro were here last year only because of that reason.

    You can see the same pattern. You have two willful stubborn coaches that will impose their will and retain a bad player because he likes him. If it were up to Keim, he probably would have gotten rid of the punter and kicker early but probably felt pressured by Arians to retain them.

    We have the same thing here: Friend of Bruce (FOB) As with Parcells in Dallas, you will see similar FOB moves. When Parcells was forced to "retire" by Jerry Jones, Jones gutted the organization of Parcells guys because Jones was tired of all the FOB moves in terms of both coaching assistants and players.
    The coaching tree that Parcells developed including at Dallas is amazing. The 2005 staff included Todd Bowles, Sean Payton, Tony Sprano, Todd Haley and Mike Zimmer. He had BB with him at the Giants, Pats and Jets. He took a bad team to the playoffs with Quincy Carter as his QB. He signed Romo as an UDFA, drafted Ware, Spears, Canty, Marion Barber and Jay Ratliff in the 2005 draft. He also drafted Jason Whitten and signed Miles Austin as an UDFA. He turned the franchise around before moving on. He completely turned around the Giant's, Dallas, Pats and Jets. Granted he only won a SB when George Young was the GM but he drafted pretty well and his coaching tree is insanely good.

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