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    Quote Originally Posted by RimrockCard View Post
    Yup.......Another Great!..lol


    His satire was the best

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    Steve Keim on his morning radio interview once again cited the unacceptable special teams and how things need to change.

    Prediction: Nothing will change.



    Keim is no different than BA. All talk. No substance. Keim wont fire Amos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaz View Post
    Steve Keim on his morning radio interview once again cited the unacceptable special teams and how things need to change.

    Prediction: Nothing will change.



    Keim is no different than BA. All talk. No substance. Keim wont fire Amos.
    It's progress I guess. Several weeks ago Keim's take was that us fans didn't have the privilege of watching Amos at work on the practice field, where we could all appreciate the greatness. We had to trust Steverino, he knew good coaching when he saw it.

    But again, it's not a Jones issue anymore. An Arians issue, first and only.

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    They said his contract is up at the end of the year.

    There is no way they give him a new deal.So this has to be his last year.Special Teams will be better next year with a new coach no doubt :fingercrossed:
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    Quote Originally Posted by KerryRhodes26 View Post
    My prediction from earlier on in this thread came true.

    I was listening to Doug and Wolf this morning and sure enough, heard a Bruce Arians sound bite. "We coached it up all week and unfortunately we didn't execute."


    I swear, this guy must be best friends with Whisenhunt.


    I thought we were past the days of hearing terms like

    "Coach 'em up"

    I swear, if I hear him use the words "moxie" or "swagger" I'm going to go crazy(well, crazier).
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    Quote Originally Posted by KerryRhodes26 View Post
    My prediction from earlier on in this thread came true.

    I was listening to Doug and Wolf this morning and sure enough, heard a Bruce Arians sound bite. "We coached it up all week and unfortunately we didn't execute."


    I swear, this guy must be best friends with Whisenhunt.


    I thought we were past the days of hearing terms like

    "Coach 'em up"

    I swear, if I hear him use the words "moxie" or "swagger" I'm going to go crazy(well, crazier).
    I heard BA say that too and shift the blame onto the players. Its really disturbing to have a coach who won't accept accountability for his actions or his coaches actions. Its a sign of deep organizational rot. Bidwill needs to purge this destructive oligarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaz View Post
    Keim wont fire Amos.
    Yup. You're right.

    Keim has no say over Arians' coaching staff. Zero. He cannot let Jones go unless he fires Arians, in which case everyone goes.

    Firing Jones is exclusively under the control, per binding contract, of Bruce Arians.

    For someone who professes to know so much about the NFL, I'm surprised you didn't know that most Head Coaches have control over their staff and the 46-man week-to-week roster.

    Steve Keim controls the 90/53 man roster.

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    Letting his contract expire is the punkass way out. Keim doesnt have the cojones to overrules BA and fire Amos




    Nothing is worse for the lockerroom and team culture than holding the players to one standard, and coaches to none. BA will rip players all day long. Cut these men who are trying to provide for their families. But Amos is protected. His paycheck comes every week no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerryRhodes26 View Post
    In typical Wolf form, he defended the coaches.

    At least Doug has the guts to say(and I'm paraphrasing), "yes, it comes down to execution, but if you continually put a guy into position knowing that he can't execute, IT'S ON YOU AS THE COACH!"



    Fact is, Drew Butler was on this team for too long after his poor performance. I remember myself and people here saying back in the first Carolina playoff loss(where we had to start Lindley) saying they were fed up with Butlers inconsistent play and wanted him off the team. He stayed on, I think another 2 years?

    The length of Drew Butler's tenure with AZ has to fall on someone in the coaching staff

    It's some version of one of the following
    1. Amos Jones and Bruce Arians can't evaluate talent on the special teams side of the ball

    2. Amos Jones went to bat for Drew Butler, and Bruce Arians being a loyal guy, trusted his coaches opinion(apparently drew Butler was an all star at practice)

    3. Keim told Arians that finding a more consistent punter is not a top priority and to work with what we have


    We have had FG kicking problems going on 3 years now. Not just a kicker missing kicks on a regular basis, but blocked FGs where the opposing team OBVIOUSLY has some kind of "IN" on our technique, or processing and can capitalize on it on multiple special team plays.



    Arians said he doesn't fire coaches mid season right?. Why aren't players awarded that luxury? Why isn't Andre Ellington on this team?(Not that I wanted him here at the beginning of the season) but surely if you're going to grant that luxury to your "buddy" coaches, why not your players who've been with you for as long as Ellington has been?

    Thatís a pretty telling coment coming from Wolf. If he is throwing subtle daggers, which he basically never does, it shows just how bad the situation is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVcardsFan View Post
    Yup. You're right.

    Keim has no say over Arians' coaching staff. Zero. He cannot let Jones go unless he fires Arians, in which case everyone goes.

    Firing Jones is exclusively under the control, per binding contract, of Bruce Arians.

    For someone who professes to know so much about the NFL, I'm surprised you didn't know that most Head Coaches have control over their staff and the 46-man week-to-week roster.

    Steve Keim controls the 90/53 man roster.
    I've finally figured it out! Thanks WV!. What BA is saying is that "it ain't my fault we suck" because I just coach, along with my other coaches. SK is responsible for getting me players and because these ST players suck, it is SK's fault that our ST unit is ranked dead last in the league. If Amos had better players, our ST would be better. Never mind this has been happening for several years with no adjustments or corrections from the coaching staff.

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