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Thread: Could Case Keenum End Up With the Cardinals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwatson1 View Post
    Most news reports indicate the Vikings are going to let Keenum walk. Just for grins, let's say they don't. If we get Shurmur, we are going to land one of the Vikes QB's. Let's assume it's the one we want the least, as in Bradford.

    Bradford is Stanton 2.0, without the sideline dance moves. Bradford would be cheap and would step in day one ready to run the offense until our newly drafted QB can take over. Once that happens, Bradford assumes his 'Stanton-esque' clipboard role and I'm fine with that. In all fairness, he's an upgrade over Stanton. Who knows, we might even get him cheaper than Stanton's old contract.

    ***note - I don't want Bradford. But he's a decent consolation prize and buys us time. At least six games I imagine. He's perfectly capable of playing .500 or better ball with our defense.

    The beauty of Keenum, or in this case Bradford, is both are cheap enough to allow us to build a crazy good line via free agency. We could sign Norwell and a center and wouldn't have to 'reach' in the next draft. Until we fix our O-line, we could sign 'Moses' at QB, and he still wouldn't be able to do anything. (although I'd very much enjoy hearing Charlton Heston's audibles)
    The only way I want a Minnesota Qb is if we can't get Smith or Cousins. I think Smith would be better on the cap and give SK more flexibility. I am not sold on any of the Minnesota Qb's however Keenum would be my choice of the three and hope he does not regress. If Minnesota wins this weekend Keenum will be the one they protect in my opinion.

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    will wait to see how Keenum reacts to playoff football....it's all that matters
    The Wilks era begin

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    Quote Originally Posted by RimrockCard View Post
    will wait to see how Keenum reacts to playoff football....it's all that matters
    I think pretty well. this kid has a lot more moxie then Alex Smith. Smith is probably more talented and is a good QB.

    rich gannon became a pro bowler after age of 30. Keenum is 29. It's not out of the realm that this guy can thrive at a high level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AriS. View Post
    I think pretty well. this kid has a lot more moxie then Alex Smith. Smith is probably more talented and is a good QB.

    rich gannon became a pro bowler after age of 30. Keenum is 29. It's not out of the realm that this guy can thrive at a high level.
    VERY Good point -- so I reviewed Gannon career.

    1997 (Age 31 turned 32 in Dec. '97) - led Chiefs to the playoffs after replacing Elvis Grbac but the playoff drought continued for coach M. Schottenheimer as he went back to Grbac for the playoff game resulting in Chiefs loss.
    1999 (Age 33) - Gruden signs Gannon who then is a Pro Bowler 4 YEARS in a row under Gruden including a NFL MVP award in 2002 (at age 36) and had an astonishing 4,689 yds and he led the league with 418 completions on 618 attempts. Gannon was having a good year even in his last year (at age 38/39) in 2004 but got a serious neck injury during a game and that was it.

    So again ... coaching does make a difference in helping a QB gain confidence and performing at a high level. This is why I am for the Shurmur/Keenum package (#1a) or Wilks - DeFilippo as OC as the #1b option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurpriseCardFan View Post
    VERY Good point -- so I reviewed Gannon career.

    1997 (Age 31 turned 32 in Dec. '97) - led Chiefs to the playoffs after replacing Elvis Grbac but the playoff drought continued for coach M. Schottenheimer as he went back to Grbac for the playoff game resulting in Chiefs loss.
    1999 (Age 33) - Gruden signs Gannon who then is a Pro Bowler 4 YEARS in a row under Gruden including a NFL MVP award in 2002 (at age 36) and had an astonishing 4,689 yds and he led the league with 418 completions on 618 attempts. Gannon was having a good year even in his last year (at age 38/39) in 2004 but got a serious neck injury during a game and that was it.

    So again ... coaching does make a difference in helping a QB gain confidence and performing at a high level. This is why I am for the Shurmur/Keenum package (#1a) or Wilks - DeFilippo as OC as the #1b option.
    It wasn't just coaching. He had great talent around him in Oakland. Tim Brown in his prime and good secondary receivers and guys who could catch out of the backfield. He even had Rice who had one Fitzgerald like year with Brown.

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    I am really really hesitant on Keenum. 1 good season amongst 8 bad ones. Which is the truth?


    Nick Foles put up 27 TDs, 2 INTs in 2013. Thats MVP stuff. It also might be the single flukiest season performance in NFL history. He hasnt come close to that since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaz View Post
    I am really really hesitant on Keenum. 1 good season amongst 8 bad ones. Which is the truth?


    Nick Foles put up 27 TDs, 2 INTs in 2013. Thats MVP stuff. It also might be the single flukiest season performance in NFL history. He hasnt come close to that since.
    I would be very hesitant to give him big money. They ranked 21st in passing attempts and 2nd in rushing attempts. They have great weapons in the passing game and a great D that turns people over. His numbers have game manager in a perfect situation written all over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    I would be very hesitant to give him big money. They ranked 21st in passing attempts and 2nd in rushing attempts. They have great weapons in the passing game and a great D that turns people over. His numbers have game manager in a perfect situation written all over it.
    Yup a game manager with David Johnson no different from Alex Smith just cheaper. Game managers for sure though.

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    A game manager is what it's going to come down to unless you somehow get a vet like Brees or Cousins but looks like its gonna be a game manager QB for now

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    Everyone would prefer a Brees type MVP QB.


    But for what we are....game manager is fine with me. Our defense is dominant to enough to where we could have a very Vikings-like season every year. 12-4 only scoring 20, but holding opponents to 12.

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