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    Alright MB know-it-alls, here is your chance to be GM. There is not a coach or QB yet and the draft hasn't happened. So, instead of throwing salt on my brilliant and bulletproof suggestions, let's hear yours. For this thread, no dissing other poster's list...we'll do that later. So, SK calls you and tells you he will follow 5 of your demands. List your top 5 decisions or approaches to the choices the Cardinals have to make. Remember, only your ideas...no comments on other posts.


    1. Hire either Shurmur, Wilkes, McDaniels or Munchak. I'm not dead set on any of them, but there are 4 jobs available and 4 top tier, IMO, candidates, so we should get one of them. I would, at this point lean 1A. Wilkes and 1B. McDaniels. 3. Shurmur. 4. Munchak. Our D is likely going to have to carry the team some, so if you go McDaniels, he'd better have a very good DC. I'd coin toss he and Wilkes.

    2. Trade a 3rd for Alex Smith . Sign him to a 3 year deal and draft a QB in round 2 or 3...If LJack or Rudolph are available in round 2, that's my pick. I don't think they will be, however.

    3. Go BPA in the draft with special consideration for WR or OG. I'm good reaching slightly on either of these. For example, we have a big, strong WR at #22 on the internal board, I'd be good choosing him at 15 just to be sure. Those 2 positions will have a lot of say in how next season goes. For the most part, though, stick to BPA.

    4. Renegotiate or cut HB. Yes, it's drastic (perception-wise) and yes there will be some dead money, but he is due $19 XTRA LARGE this year. That is unfathomable and cannot happen. That's QB money for an average S. NO NO NO. Same with Iupati...he's perhaps a depth G at this point due to injuries.

    5. Address the TE position. It's going to be much more important in 2018 because of the WR deficiency. I'd try to release Holding on #84 Gresham on an injury settlement and inquire about Jimmy G from Seattle. This position room has to get better.
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    Just so you know, $8M of the guaranteed money that becomes due to Mathieu in March is 2019 salary.

    His cap hit for 2018 is $14M.

    Cutting him creates a $9M dead hit.

    So who are you going top bring in who is better/younger for the $5M that you've saved?

    Mathieu isn't going anywhere. It's a foolish decision both football wise and especially cap wise to cut him.

    Sometimes you just have to deal with players being overpaid as long as they aren't hurting your team. Mathieu didn't play up to his salary in 2017, but he certainly wasn't a liability.

    Also, Graham isn't a TE, he's a WR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVcardsFan View Post
    Just so you know, $8M of the guaranteed money that becomes due to Mathieu in March is 2019 salary.

    His cap hit for 2018 is $14M.

    Cutting him creates a $9M dead hit.

    So who are you going top bring in who is better/younger for the $5M that you've saved?

    Mathieu isn't going anywhere. It's a foolish decision both football wise and especially cap wise to cut him.

    Sometimes you just have to deal with players being overpaid as long as they aren't hurting your team. Mathieu didn't play up to his salary in 2017, but he certainly wasn't a liability.

    Also, Graham isn't a TE, he's a WR.
    But you could renegotiate with him. If faced with being cut would he make his salary someplace else? Maybe they can find a go between number that satisfies them both.

    I could see him leaving this summer. He really was a nothing player again this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OJ Anderson View Post
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    1. HC - Mike Muchak. OL specialist and worked with Leveon Bell in Pitt. Thus he would know how to use David effectively.

    2. Draft QB - Baker Mayfield. Probably the only good one within arms reach of us. With that said, I have very high hopes. Russ Wilson-esque.

    3. 2nd round pick - Will Hernandez OG

    4. Free agency - give Andrew Norwell (OG) ALL OF THE MONEY. Overpay if need be. Fix this dang line.

    5. Use remaining FA money and draft picks on WRs.

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    Munchak would be such an underwhelming hire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AriS. View Post
    But you could renegotiate with him. If faced with being cut would he make his salary someplace else? Maybe they can find a go between number that satisfies them both.

    I could see him leaving this summer. He really was a nothing player again this season.
    He isn't taking a pay cut, and I don't blame him.

    And he was only a "nothing player" in the eyes of a pessimist like you.

    He wasn't popping on tape like he did in 2015, save for a few plays, but he was nowhere near the problem some of you made him out to be. he was a good (not great,) dependable Safety who was playing out of position until Bettcher wised up around midseason (or maybe started trusting T. Williams with more man responsibility at CB2-- either way) and started putting Mathieu back in spots where he could make plays (at the LOS, as a Man-Lurk, or as a roving deep Safety who could keep his eyes on the QB as the routes developed.)

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    Sounds fun!

    Here is answer for Keim in order of events:

    1. Sign Shurmur

    2. Trade a 3rd pick for Keenum

    3. Renegotiate TMs deal giving him a longer contract with guaranteed money to free up current cap space

    4. Get the best free agent guard available

    5. 1st round draft board in order as follows: Draft A) QB Mayfield - Oklahoma; B) QB Allen - Wyoming; C) G Nelson -Notre Dame or D) TE Andrews - Oklahoma whoever is available. If none are available select OT Miller - UCLA

    6. 2nd round pick WR Jackson - OK State or best available WR
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    1. Trade up to select Rosen, Darnold or Mayfield in the draft. I will give up 2 first round picks and a third to draft Rosen or Darnold. I will give up a first round pick and a second to trade up for Mayfield. You either have to tank and finish in the bottom 3 or get lucky and land one in a later round. We are unwilling to do the first option and the second option has a remote chance of happening. If you want a QB, you have to pay the price and trade up. That's the reality. The best teams have done it: Atlanta, NY Giants, Rams, and Eagles are all examples. Target Rosen or Darnold first and likely sit them for the first year to allow them to learn and keep them healthy. Let Drew Stanton or another veteran start this next year

    2. Hire Pat Schurmur, Josh McDaniel, or Matt LaFleur as head coach. No defensive minded coaches. When hiring a coach, I will interview to make certain the coach is willing to adjust his scheme around the talent and not vice versa. If we have Baker Mayfield, I need a system that will suit his strengths. The most flexible of these coaches is who I would hire.

    3. In the draft and free agency, fill needs at Wide Receiver, Cornerback, Center and Guard. I will completely overhaul the interior of the offensive line at center and both guard spots.

    4. Draft needs to focus on players with an emphasis on the SEC for interior lineman, and defense. Small schools should be avoided with rare exception

    5. Retain James Bettcher as DC and give him a raise. Keep the defense intact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cardinalsDO View Post
    1. Trade up to select Rosen, Darnold or Mayfield in the draft. I will give up 2 first round picks and a third to draft Rosen or Darnold. I will give up a first round pick and a second to trade up for Mayfield. You either have to tank and finish in the bottom 3 or get lucky and land one in a later round. We are unwilling to do the first option and the second option has a remote chance of happening. If you want a QB, you have to pay the price and trade up. That's the reality. The best teams have done it: Atlanta, NY Giants, Rams, and Eagles are all examples. Target Rosen or Darnold first and likely sit them for the first year to allow them to learn and keep them healthy. Let Drew Stanton or another veteran start this next year

    2. Hire Pat Schurmur, Josh McDaniel, or Matt LaFleur as head coach. No defensive minded coaches. When hiring a coach, I will interview to make certain the coach is willing to adjust his scheme around the talent and not vice versa. If we have Baker Mayfield, I need a system that will suit his strengths. The most flexible of these coaches is who I would hire.

    3. In the draft and free agency, fill needs at Wide Receiver, Cornerback, Center and Guard. I will completely overhaul the interior of the offensive line at center and both guard spots.

    4. Draft needs to focus on players with an emphasis on the SEC for interior lineman, and defense. Small schools should be avoided with rare exception

    5. Retain James Bettcher as DC and give him a raise. Keep the defense intact.
    I was with you through #3.

    1. I agree that if you are targeting a QB in Round 1, you make sure you get him.

    2. I thin Keim, under oath, would say he prefers an offensive-minded HC.

    3. That's usually what the goal is, right? Fill your needs through the draft and FA?

    4. It's too simplistic to focus on any particular school or conference. It could easily be argued that none of the top-3 Interior Line prospects is from the SEC. (Nelson, Price. Hernandez.)

    5. Bettcher certainly got through to his players during the second half stretch, but the reality of NFL life is that whoever comes in is likely going to bring in his own guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OJ Anderson View Post
    Alright MB know-it-alls, here is your chance to be GM. There is not a coach or QB yet and the draft hasn't happened. So, instead of throwing salt on my brilliant and bulletproof suggestions, let's hear yours. For this thread, no dissing other poster's list...we'll do that later. So, SK calls you and tells you he will follow 5 of your demands. List your top 5 decisions or approaches to the choices the Cardinals have to make. Remember, only your ideas...no comments on other posts.


    1. Hire either Shurmur, Wilkes, McDaniels or Munchak. I'm not dead set on any of them, but there are 4 jobs available and 4 top tier, IMO, candidates, so we should get one of them. I would, at this point lean 1A. Wilkes and 1B. McDaniels. 3. Shurmur. 4. Munchak. Our D is likely going to have to carry the team some, so if you go McDaniels, he'd better have a very good DC. I'd coin toss he and Wilkes.

    2. Trade a 3rd for Alex Smith . Sign him to a 3 year deal and draft a QB in round 2 or 3...If LJack or Rudolph are available in round 2, that's my pick. I don't think they will be, however.

    3. Go BPA in the draft with special consideration for WR or OG. I'm good reaching slightly on either of these. For example, we have a big, strong WR at #22 on the internal board, I'd be good choosing him at 15 just to be sure. Those 2 positions will have a lot of say in how next season goes. For the most part, though, stick to BPA.

    4. Renegotiate or cut HB. Yes, it's drastic (perception-wise) and yes there will be some dead money, but he is due $19 XTRA LARGE this year. That is unfathomable and cannot happen. That's QB money for an average S. NO NO NO. Same with Iupati...he's perhaps a depth G at this point due to injuries.

    5. Address the TE position. It's going to be much more important in 2018 because of the WR deficiency. I'd try to release Holding on #84 Gresham on an injury settlement and inquire about Jimmy G from Seattle. This position room has to get better.
    This sure got listened too and followed

    But here goes:
    1: 1. Patricia intrigues me greatly, 2. Shumur If a QB comes with him 3. Wilkes 4. McDaniels, 1a)If Patricia selected as best HC candidate will he take on Bettcher as DC? Continuity on D is very important for next season and beyond.
    2: If Shumur and QB are not the fit then yes to an Alex Smith deal, a 2 yr deal with Option for 3rd year. And take a QB in the draft. (see #3)
    3: If QB taken in 1st best O-lineman left in 2nd. If no top 5 QB available in 1st rd draft by pick 15 best O-lineman and take project QB in later rd (how late depends upon who is available). Then with rest of picks fill in with BPA with another Oline in there somewhere.
    4: Sign quality FA Oline during FA signing period 1st.
    5: Then Sign UFA WR that has some speed and some length (Moncrief has been mentioned. Sammy Watkins want to return to rams though.)

    JosEPh

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