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    Default Todd Haley - the coach you should be talking about

    I posted a thread about Bruce Arians years ago before he was hired. Surprisingly, the majority of fans here agreed and liked the prospect. You guys got it and bought it. Arians was available more or less because of his attitude. Well, we have another coach who is being completely overlooked because of his attitude. Haley is one hell of a playcaller and we saw the playcalling and offense fall dramatically when he left for the Chiefs. The Steelers didn't lose becacuse of their offense. The offense scored 42 points. Their defense and Tomlin lost the game. The defense gave up 45 points and they went for an on-side kick with over 2 minutes left and 2 time outs.

    Like Arians, Haley is rough around the edges but he is smart as hell. Also, Haley doesn't stick to a game plan or a particular offense. His playcalling is based on matchups and Haley will design the offense to exploit a defenses weaknesses.

    You would rather have Mike Munchak than Todd Haley? Cmon, Haley can coach and unlike Arians, Haley won't green light every stupid front office move like failing to replace Catanzaro and Butler early in 2016. Haley has a opinion but that's what this team needs. It needs both intelligence and toughness, something Haley offers.
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    Nah.


    He can be OC. But he's too much of an abrasive cockwad to be a HC again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardinalsDO View Post
    I posted a thread about Bruce Arians years ago before he was hired. Surprisingly, the majority of fans here agreed and liked the prospect. You guys got it and bought it. Arians was available more or less because of his attitude. Well, we have another coach who is being completely overlooked because of his attitude. Haley is one hell of a playcaller and we saw the playcalling and offense fall dramatically when he left for the Chiefs. The Steelers didn't lose becacuse of their offense. The offense scored 42 points. Their defense and Tomlin lost the game. The defense gave up 45 points and they went for an on-side kick with over 2 minutes left and 2 time outs.

    Like Arians, Haley is rough around the edges but he is smart as hell. Also, Haley doesn't stick to a game plan or a particular offense. His playcalling is based on matchups and Haley will design the offense to exploit a defenses weaknesses.

    You would rather have Mike Munchak than Todd Haley? Cmon, Haley can coach and unlike Arians, Haley won't green light every stupid front office move like failing to replace Catanzaro and Butler early in 2016. Haley has a opinion but that's what this team needs. It needs both intelligence and toughness, something Haley offers.
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    Pass. That would be like trying to have Rex Ryan come to the Cardinals and be the Head Coach. Not gonna happen as there is bad blood here between ownership and Todd Haley.
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    Haley burns bridges with teams and players at every stop he’s had in the NFL. He never lasts long and there’s a reason for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardinalsDO View Post
    I posted a thread about Bruce Arians years ago before he was hired. Surprisingly, the majority of fans here agreed and liked the prospect. You guys got it and bought it. Arians was available more or less because of his attitude. Well, we have another coach who is being completely overlooked because of his attitude. Haley is one hell of a playcaller and we saw the playcalling and offense fall dramatically when he left for the Chiefs. The Steelers didn't lose becacuse of their offense. The offense scored 42 points. Their defense and Tomlin lost the game. The defense gave up 45 points and they went for an on-side kick with over 2 minutes left and 2 time outs.

    Like Arians, Haley is rough around the edges but he is smart as hell. Also, Haley doesn't stick to a game plan or a particular offense. His playcalling is based on matchups and Haley will design the offense to exploit a defenses weaknesses.

    You would rather have Mike Munchak than Todd Haley? Cmon, Haley can coach and unlike Arians, Haley won't green light every stupid front office move like failing to replace Catanzaro and Butler early in 2016. Haley has a opinion but that's what this team needs. It needs both intelligence and toughness, something Haley offers.
    You can be stern to a point but Haley's problem is he is not easy to get along with,until he changes that no one is gonna turn a team over to him. No one wins with a mutiny. Players loved working for BA they didn't with Haley if we are to believe the players comment and seeing the fights on the sidelines that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardinalsDO View Post
    I posted a thread about Bruce Arians years ago before he was hired. Surprisingly, the majority of fans here agreed and liked the prospect. You guys got it and bought it. Arians was available more or less because of his attitude. Well, we have another coach who is being completely overlooked because of his attitude. Haley is one hell of a playcaller and we saw the playcalling and offense fall dramatically when he left for the Chiefs. The Steelers didn't lose becacuse of their offense. The offense scored 42 points. Their defense and Tomlin lost the game. The defense gave up 45 points and they went for an on-side kick with over 2 minutes left and 2 time outs.

    Like Arians, Haley is rough around the edges but he is smart as hell. Also, Haley doesn't stick to a game plan or a particular offense. His playcalling is based on matchups and Haley will design the offense to exploit a defenses weaknesses.

    You would rather have Mike Munchak than Todd Haley? Cmon, Haley can coach and unlike Arians, Haley won't green light every stupid front office move like failing to replace Catanzaro and Butler early in 2016. Haley has a opinion but that's what this team needs. It needs both intelligence and toughness, something Haley offers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbirdfan62 View Post
    You can be stern to a point but Haley's problem is he is not easy to get along with,until he changes that no one is gonna turn a team over to him. No one wins with a mutiny. Players loved working for BA they didn't with Haley if we are to believe the players comment and seeing the fights on the sidelines that is.
    No one is going to win with the remaining candidates either. Do we really want to settle on a mediocre coach because he is nice versus an amazing coach who can be tough to get along with? Remember Arians was thought to be a guy no one could work with either. And Todd has been in the system for a while longer so I'm sure he has matured to some degree.

    Haley comes from the Bill Parcells' coaching tree. That includes coaches like Tom Coughlin, Sean Payton and Bill Belichick. Say what you will but all of those coaches have been successful. As a fan, I just want to see us win. I don't care about hugs and kisses. Sometimes the players need discipline and told when they are doing something wrong. Larry Fitzgerald attributes a lot of his success to Haley because Haley didn't lavish him with praise.

    But the discipline element doesn't intrigue as much as his playcalling. He is a smart coach and a great playcaller, something we didn't see Arians do that well the past 2 years when he didn't adjust to defenses and kept calling the same plays. What I like the most about his approach is he isn't tied down to any one system. He is not a west coast offense guy or a pro style guy or playaction/vertical passing coach, he will use whatever system is necessary to exploit the defense and it's based on matchups. That is what we need on offense. Last year, Arians is still running playaction when we can't run inside and was throwing deep on 3rd and short. if your offensive line can't hold their blocks, you shouldn't be running playaction or calling plays that take a long time to develop. That was frustrating about Arians.
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    No thanks to the bar room brawler.
    Still searching for our QBOF.

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    Steelers cut ties with Todd Haley today..

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