Way to early 2013 mock

[LD14]

Curious where does Brown go by drafting a LT in the first round? Too much money invested in him now. While I have alot of hope for Massie starting at RT at some point this season.

Would be sweet to see us go OLB or CB with the 1st this next season. A replacement for Adub would be ideal as well

[Northern Soul]

His contract is fine for this and next year I believe. He's a better Right Tackle I believe anyway. He'll more than likely be asked to restructure at some stage over the next couple of years, and if the Cards can get a decent guy to play LT, moving him back to the right would be a massive bonus for the line.

Originally Posted by LD14

Would be sweet to see us go OLB or CB with the 1st this next season. A replacement for Adub would be ideal as well

One of the guys I'm looking forward to watching this year is Michigan Safety Jordan Kovacs. He didnt have as good a year as hoped last year. But if he can play to his potential this year he could see a high price on his talents.

[LD14]

Originally Posted by Northern Soul

His contract is fine for this and next year I believe. He's a better Right Tackle I believe anyway. He'll more than likely be asked to restructure at some stage over the next couple of years, and if the Cards can get a decent guy to play LT, moving him back to the right would be a massive bonus for the line.

I understand that he'll be better for the right side, this coaching staff seems to believe otherwise and Brown has said that he wants to stay at LT. I hope he plays as well as he did in the 2nd half of last season, otherwise I think he's locked in for at least 2 more years like you said despite some atrocious pass blocking for our QBs

[wit3card]

Hmm 2013 mock draft interesting:

I think there should be two scenarios how we need to Draft 2013 in the first round else it should be the same, the probably easier forecast is that one of our 2 QB's does well and we don't need a starter QB, the other is that both do bad and we select early in 2013 for a franchise QB. As both are possible outcomes of 2012 i make 2 different Mocks. First will be the better outcome for us as fans, in this list I presume that Williams and Wells did well and the RB position is settled.

I will put more names on the list because it depends at which position in the draft will be so we have different opportunities so I think with giving about 2-3 Names not only I can give you a deeper look at what i think we will be searching but show you some players i like.

1# We need a NT because i don't think that Williams is really good and a difference maker, i project (hope)NT Star Lotulelei from Utah (best of his year by any means)
Our FO probably doesn't go for him or get him so they will get an SS(Vaccaro Kenny)/TE(Fauria Joseph or Stoneburner Jake[in case that on of our TE is done or it is the best Player available])OLB-ILB(Poreter Sean, Hodges Gerald[i think Hodges will surprise this season] Te'o Manti, Skov Shayne)
LT will be no concern in my eyes, it will be Brown or Potter and Jackson is 2014 class so I don't think we will draft him in 2013 ;) earliest in 2014.

2# tough decision here, we need really an SS because we get old there, on LB we need some upgrades/help and we need an DE/DT for our 3-4 defense because Docket/Holliday getting older and we need a good player there. So SS/LB/DE/DT something of that should it be

SS (Waggner Prentiss, Shawn Williams) LB(Reddick Kevin, Brown Arthur, Jenkins Brandon, Thomas Chase) DE/DT (Buchnan Michael, Horton Wes, Taylor Davin,Dion Jordan[he would fit so extremely good in Hortons Defense as a 3/4 LB if you don't know him look for him he is awesome in case Oregon] Jessy Williams, John Jenkins)

FO will go that way too.

3# We Need the same as above but an OG too because Colledge and Snyder will turn 31 and Klemente is a late pick so I think we should take one at 3# because we don't need only 1 supplement but two.

SS(Shawn Williams, Jamoris Slaughter, Drew Frey, Taylor Cooper[I like that guy 6,4 feet tall but fast as hell, although we could take him probably even later #4 or #5 from Richmond look at him, i saw him last year in 1-2 games on ESPN and it was outstanding to me how he was every time there were he should be and he stopped really much everything]) LB(Thomas Chase, Larimore Patrick, Bruce Taylor, Collin James) DE/DT (Taylor Davin, Dion Jordan, John Jenkins, DeVonte Holloman) OG(Braden Hansen[tall fast Player from BYU probably underrated on some mocks i would take him anytime], Blaize Foltz, Travis Bond[I like his ceiling 6'6 tall, strong long arms lacks somehow of speed probably 340 pounds are too much])

If the FO didn't get the SS in the first 3 rounds I would go nuts but you never know what great pick could stay so long but normally we should be done with SS and for OLB/ILB same discussion.

4# So we still need probably a DE/DT OG TE and I presume that we will need an K, I think Feely 37 by then is not totally done but picking up a young guy wouldn't be bad (4th round sounds early, but its only because of that kicker and i think he could go in the 4th round)

DE/DT (Taylor Davin, Dion Jordan, John Jenkins, DeVonte Holloman) OG(Braden Hansen, Blaize Foltz, Travis Bond) TE (Ben Cotton, Colter Phillips[both big guys that can block and catch, Colter should be better if healthy 2012], Colin Anderson) K(Dustin Hopkins)

Somehow my guts tell me that Whize will take a shot @ Colter or Cotton but probably at 5th or 6th round. IF the FO didn't take a NT and a DT earlier the don't draft that high so DT Position is done.

5# Now we need an RT or LT, I think that Massie will be our starter, so if Potter can play LT we need an RT else an LT-Backup behind Brown. So this round we need DE, TE, K and LT/RT

DE (John Jenkins, DeVonte Holloman, Mallicha Goodman, Craig Rob) OG(Braden Hansen, Blaize Foltz, Travis Bond) TE (Ben Cotton, Colter Phillips, Colin Anderson) K(Dustin Hopkins, Alex Okafor, John Simon) LT/RT (Matt Summers-Gavin, Xavir Nixon, Jeff Nady[if he gets faster], Dann O'Neill)

6# + 7#the last 2 picks will be prospects like always since Ken is here so i don't go by Position but by Ken's guts and likes of ceiling and speed and so on, because he hopes to get them better.

TE (Ben Cotton, Colter Philipps) OT (Jeff Nady, Dann O'Neill) WR (Marcus Davis[6'4 he is able to run the 40 yards in 4,32, but the main thing is he is fast on short stretches Slot-receiver like has good hands and jumps more than 44 inches high could be a beast as Slot-receiver if he has enough time to adept to NFL which he could have on our team(hopefully)]) S(Taylor Cooper, Ray-Ray Armstrong) NT(T.J. Barrens [6'7 tall 345 pounds and plays this position in his team]) OLB(Cornelius Washington[6'4 and really fast makes cross training for DE, interesting guy], Sean Fisher[6'5]) DE (Tyler Hoover)

In the case our QB's falter and we have to looking for a QB or if Lindley does well (and with well I mean he goes in for the last 4 games and wins 3 of them convincingly) we have to draft a QB.

1# Matt Barkley, Tyler Wilson(for what I saw on stats and on TV is a QB that goes downhill in 3th and 4th quarter when you really need him), and Landry Jones are the first tree that probably will go away, for Matt you need probably the first pick and I don't think we will have that, for that our defense and special Team and Fitz and the RB's are to strong so we will probably land about 6-14 and so Landry Jones would be a better fit than Wilson at least from ceiling that Ken likes Ej Manuel could be there too.

Ej Manuel should be our draft pick at that point, LJ tends to be worse in through the half he starts good and gets worse, where else Ej Starts extreme strong
and from second Quarter till end plays on the same high level. I don't remind if he has a really strong arm but in difference to Landry and the other QB's before him Manuel can run the ball he is really fast but doesn't run like RGIII he is more of a situational runner to get first downs and TD's 2010 i thought he got a 32 yard TD rush. (RGIII Combine was 4.4 Manuel last year scouted time was 4,5 and I think Ken likes it that in the worst case the QB can run to a first down)


I know now someone will say yeah but with all this names you will be right somehow. Yeah but I give you the best case 2013 Draft for the Cards at this point.

1# NT Star Lotulelei
2# DE Dion Jordan
3# SS Taylor Cooper
4# OG Branden Hansen
5# K Alex Okafor (Dustin will go before we pick)
6# WR Marcus Davis
7# TE Colter Philips

I know I didn't draft LB but that is because I think/hope that Groves is that man that we needed there and only for a younger player I draft the better players that bring the team something more than only youth.

Someone knows if we have more than 1 draftpick per round this year and if we have two at wich round. thx


oh and
Undrafted picks: NT T.J. Barrens, OLB Cornelius Washington, OT Jeff Nady, S Taylor Cooper, DE Tyler Hoover

Originally Posted by flagstaff card

Haters will hate esp mods...REGARDLESS here's a 2013 mock...AGAIN.

With the 13th pick the Az Cardinals select...
1) LT, Oday Oboushi, Virginia, 6-6, 310. The best LT in college.
2) ILB, Andrew Jackson, W. Kentucky, 6-1, 255. A cousin swears he's a 1st rounder I hope to catch 2-3 games this yr.
3) OLB, Stansly Maponga, TCU, 6-2, 265, TCU continues to deliver with LBs.
4) TE, Michael Williams, Alabama, 6-6, 270. A blocking TE to compliment Housler.
5) NT, Mister Cobble, Kentucky, 6-0, 332. Carter should be coming in for C.C. & D.D. not Williams.
6) CB, Kenny Okoro, Wake Forest, 6-0, 195.
7) S, Jarred Holley, Pitt, 5-10, 190.

did you mean Oday Aboushi?

Originally Posted by wit3card

5# K Alex Okafor

Fail XD Strugis Caleb XD Okafor is gone in round 1 XD

[rohinaz]

Assuming Kolb kicks butt this year and we dont need a QB, Id take Sam Montgomery or Barkevius Mingo at OLB or Eric Reid at Safety. They all play at LSU, and they are all special talents.

[Northern Soul]

Originally Posted by rohinaz

Assuming Kolb kicks butt this year and we dont need a QB, Id take Sam Montgomery or Barkevius Mingo at OLB or Eric Reid at Safety. They all play at LSU, and they are all special talents.

If he plays like he started last year, all year. I think Sam Montgomery is a top 5 pick.

[flagstaff card]

1) QB, Logan Thomas, V.Tech, 6-5, 254. Nothing changes until we address this glaring weakness.
2) OT, Oday Aboushi, Virginia, 6-6, 310. We need a real LT plain and simple.
3) ILB, Andrew Jackson, W.Kentucky, 6-1, 265. Does anybody feel comfortable with the ILBs except Washington.
4) OLB, Ron Powell, Florida, 6-4, 248. We need depth behind our two OLBs.
5) OLB/ILB, Nico Johnson, Alabama, 6-3, 245.
6) DE, Dominique Easley, Florida, 6-2, 282.
7) NT, Larry Black, Indiana, 6-2, 311.

[Xosder]

Originally Posted by flagstaff card

1) QB, Logan Thomas, V.Tech, 6-5, 254. Nothing changes until we address this glaring weakness.
2) OT, Oday Aboushi, Virginia, 6-6, 310. We need a real LT plain and simple.
3) ILB, Andrew Jackson, W.Kentucky, 6-1, 265. Does anybody feel comfortable with the ILBs except Washington.
4) OLB, Ron Powell, Florida, 6-4, 248. We need depth behind our two OLBs.
5) OLB/ILB, Nico Johnson, Alabama, 6-3, 245.
6) DE, Dominique Easley, Florida, 6-2, 282.
7) NT, Larry Black, Indiana, 6-2, 311.

I really hope Skelton can be a decent QB for a year or 2. Thomas doesn't strike me as an immediate upgrade; he has many of the same problems John does, just more mobile ultimately. If they have to use a 1st rounder on a QB, it needs to be immediate impact and that's not happening w/ Thomas. Would love to see them come out w/ Jarvis Jones (if they suck enough) and grab Aboushi in the 2nd still.

[flagstaff card]

Originally Posted by Xosder

I really hope Skelton can be a decent QB for a year or 2. Thomas doesn't strike me as an immediate upgrade; he has many of the same problems John does, just more mobile ultimately. If they have to use a 1st rounder on a QB, it needs to be immediate impact and that's not happening w/ Thomas. Would love to see them come out w/ Jarvis Jones (if they suck enough) and grab Aboushi in the 2nd still.

Yeah I think your right on about Thomas been doing some reading up on him the former TE turned QB never wanted to be in the spotlight not sure if I want him now.

[Xosder]

Faulk's likely acl tear with LSU will be interesting too. I havent done enough research, but id assume he would try to get a medical redshirt if available. I cant see him going from a potential early 1st round pick to dropping down to the ~4th with a knee, unless he really needs the money.

Theres just no 1st round QB that i see as worthwhile at this point. I thought Tyler Wilson would be better than Barkley for a non-WCO, but who knows after a mediocre performance + injury yesterday.